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The Well-Mannered Politics Thread

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Really we have quite a few individuals in our government that should not be leaders. I've seen 6 year olds act more mature than 3 of these people in our government right now.
 

Oldfaithful

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How much does a senator cost these days?
Considering that my senator was rich before he even got into politics and doesn't take a salary who knows? He was former governor of his state and had significant clout and won his state in a landslide...

So not too much for him I'd imagine.

Roughly a couple $10 million though
 

Willbacker

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The SOTU speech was kickass. You get the whole house rocking with USA chants says something. Ol Bernie looked pretty pissed when Trump stated that the USA is NOT going to be a socialist country lol.
 

Inqui

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To address your second point, that $1 trillion was that omnibus bill that basically it's up to Trump to spend however he pleases from my understanding (could be wrong on that regard). Now, based on his recent speeches/comments/tweets about the wall, he can choose to declare a(nother) national emergency over the wall citing border security and it's a humanitarian crisis and some other shit.
Meant to answer this before but it looks like he'll be going ahead with it so now's as good a time as any. Yes he can call a national emergency but that's got similar long-term issues to using national security reasons to justify the steel tariffs. Most of the US steel imports come from Canada so I've got a bridge to sell anyone who thinks the steel was a national security issue. That was a bad faith use of a clause that didn't require much of a burden of proof and believe me every policy maker in the world knows it, so it's kinda hard to stop others getting in on the game. Likewise from a legal standpoint he can call a state of emergency all he wants but I hope he likes presidents spending more on healthcare because it's pretty easy to see what's going to happen next time a Democrat with a healthcare plan gets into the White House and wants to bypass the gridlock.

(Sidebar since I brought up trade, my prediction is that China and the US will sign a trade deal this year that will really only address the deficit - like China agreeing to buy more soybeans or giving a few US companies token market access like they did in 2017 - but won't address any of the actual substantive issues)
 

Willbacker

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This thing with making the MAGA hat a sign of racism really needs to stop. It's a slogan. Not some secret dogwhistle.
 

gtalk12

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This thing with making the MAGA hat a sign of racism really needs to stop. It's a slogan. Not some secret dogwhistle.

It falls on both sides and I agree with you. Some nasty few put on the hat and others associate the hat with hate because of the few.
 

Willbacker

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It falls on both sides and I agree with you. Some nasty few put on the hat and others associate the hat with hate because of the few.

Its also people make up stories about the hat. It just needs to stop.
 

Dom McRaven

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As far as Jussie Smollett story is concerned, he may be in a world of trouble if in fact he lied about the entire thing. That's disgusting.
 

gtalk12

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As far as Jussie Smollett story is concerned, he may be in a world of trouble if in fact he lied about the entire thing. That's disgusting.

As a mixed black man, I can tell you that what he did only hurts the black and gay community by taking away the power of true victims and their words. In a society that has seen victims have a hard time opening up out of fear that no one would believe them, this only makes their fights more difficult.

As of right now, he seems to have made up the entire thing for attention and pity. If true, he is a piece of shit who is stirring the pot by using keywords to get us all behind him. fuck him
 

Dom McRaven

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As a mixed black man, I can tell you that what he did only hurts the black and gay community by taking away the power of true victims and their words. In a society that has seen victims have a hard time opening up out of fear that no one would believe them, this only makes their fights more difficult.

As of right now, he seems to have made up the entire thing for attention and pity. If true, he is a piece of shit who is stirring the pot by using keywords to get us all behind him. fuck him
Indeed. I don't watch Empire so I didn't know who this guy was, but that show has been successful for years. Like, WHY THE FUCK do you need to do something so ridiculous because you have all that hatred for a president. That's definitely productive.
 

gtalk12

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Indeed. I don't watch Empire so I didn't know who this guy was, but that show has been successful for years. Like, WHY THE FUCK do you need to do something so ridiculous because you have all that hatred for a president. That's definitely productive.

Apparently he was going to be taken off of the show.
 

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rossihunter2

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yeah, just glanced over twitter - i can't watch that shit

am posting the section of manifesto i just saw on twitter but putting it under the spoiler tab for anyone that doesnt want to read it

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