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The Random Thought Thread
- Thread starter The Greek
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yeah i think he's pretty good - and with the whole PFF stuff too he brings something to colour commentary that no one else in the business has which is that innate understanding and access to the analytical stuff - not just because he's been told its true but because he literally has a stake in a company (and helped grow it) which is a major statistical and analytical player in football
JO_75
Hall of Famer
He has the problem a lot of other broadcaster seem to have, which is clearly showing a bias toward certain teams. I was at the game last night but reading the thread, it seemed he was all over whatever the Pats did and hated everything we did. Take Dan Fouts for example, him calling Steelers game is beyond bias and an absolute mute the TV if he is calling a Steelers game. Watching that Colts/Steelers game in my hotel room yesterday and he cried foul when that DPI happened on the Steelers but went out of his way to defend why the Colts committed DPI. Some broadcasters seem to forget they are supposed to remain neutral but clearly can not do that.
Only benefit to Collinsworth being in the booth, outside of that I can leave it or take it when it comes to his commentary.
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
Your impression was definitely off.
He was decent last night.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Dan fouts is my least favorite commentator, but collinsworth isn’t that bad, he’s the typical commentator who’s gonna show some hype for the more storied franchises, it’s not that he is inherently biased for one team or another, it’s that commentators by nature show more hype for the more hyped teams, if you have the jags and Steelers on a Sunday night, that’s the nfls smallest vs largest fan base, collinsworth has probably seen a lot more of the Steelers and is a lot more familiar and thus gets more hype when seeing them do something, and plus ratings are always involved and the large markets hating collinsworth because he leans too far away from their team is more hurtful to the network than if he makes the small markets hate him lol.
Really I don’t think he shows any negative bias to the ravens at all, I don’t believe I’ve ever heard it from him, only that he gets too excited about, say, a play made by the Steelers.
i didnt feel like he was biased at all
I guess he's not so bad, but he pisses me off how he used to get on the jockstrap of Antonio Brown, Lev Bell and not say good things about us when we were doing well. It's like he loves the Steelers and Pats. I'm sure it's not this way, but it sure feels like it sometimes.
whether he was or not, it felt it at times.
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
Never going to happen but funny as hell
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
I never thought I'd agree with Stephen A. Smith on anything but he made a pretty good prediction - Lamar is going to make Jalen Hurts a 1st round pick.
i hope im wrong but i think pats are only losing at most 2 of those games and maybe only 1
Ravensnation5220
Ravens Ring of Honor
Yo....I want what they're smoking..these guys are high af like idk how this became a segment
Ravensnation5220
Ravens Ring of Honor
very possibly and he is no where near the talent of LJ
Rusfan
Hall of Famer
That was my same thought
this is going to be one of the first years where i actually agree with all the people who bemoan how easy the pats have it because 6 of their games are against the AFC East - and to top it off this year they have the NFC West as well which has 2 bottom dwellers - they've basically got 8 gimme wins on their schedule
their only signature win so far was beating a down-trodden and useless but supposedly good steelers team in week 1 and a browns team that self-destructed in basically 3 plays
normally i look at them and think well the schedule doesnt really matter for them here because they're just better than anyone else in the conference but this year they aren't but probably end up with the 1 seed anyway because of the low difficulty on their schedule - we'll see though - maybe the cowboys, texans, chiefs, eagles and potentially the bills rematch go different - who knows
I spoke to a Pats fan the other day and he said in every year the Pats started 8-0, one was the 16-0 season and one was the year they were undefeated until Thanksgiving. They also had another year that was about an 8-0 start. In each of those yers they played, in addition to their easy division, NFC East.
These easy schedules have absolutely helped them get the 1 or 2 seed and the bye week and it certainly helps when you have home field advantage throughout the playoffs .
rmcjacket23
Ravens Ring of Honor
While I agree that it "helps" to play in a division that appears to be as soft as it usually is, generally speaking, this idea that New England's success is largely attributable to a "soft schedule" due to a bad division has largely been debunked.
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/pa...atriots-dominance-over-teams-outside-afc-east
The key takeaways (evaluation covers from 2001 through at least 2017 or 2018 season (can't tell from the article):
Patriots W/L % against AFC East opponents (78.2%) is comparable to their W/L % against every other team in the league (75.3%)
Patriots have 25 more non-division wins during that period than any other individual team in the NFL.
Patriots have a 24-14 record against division winners (63.1%). No other team in the NFL has a winning record against division-winning teams during that timespan.
And probably the most damning stats:
The Patriots are 60-33 against playoff teams during that span (64.5%). The second best team during that span is the Steelers... who win just 48%.
The Patriots are 75-45 against teams with a winning record during that span (62.5%). The second best team during that span is the Steelers... who win just 44%.
Or, think of it this way...
If the Patriots played a schedule that didn't include any AFC East teams at all, they would, on average, finish with a record of 12-4.
If the Patriots played a schedule that included only playoff teams, they'd still, on average, go 10-6.