The Offensive Line Thread

[Sooky]

Eluemunor played well in PS 4 against underwhelming competition. He's done a fair amount of pulling in the PS and probably most fits the identity the Ravens want when they are trying to close out a game. Sadly, they may not have a RG who can get them TO that point.

I was actually thinking that the Ravens might start Eluemunor especially after Harbaugh talked how far along he is now. The Ravens like those bigger guys at guard and I definitely could see him being pretty solid in the interior. All the talent in the world just raw as hell.

 

[rossihunter2]

I was actually thinking that the Ravens might start Eluemunor especially after Harbaugh talked how far along he is now. The Ravens like those bigger guys at guard and I definitely could see him being pretty solid in the interior. All the talent in the world just raw as hell.

Ken mckusick (filmstudy) said some interesting things about bergstrom and eluemunor - bergstrom was absolutely awful coming in as relief and seems to just not have the functional strength inside to be even ok - and the way harbs was speaking about eluemunor suggests that given our dearth of talent and the fact that he fits our physical mold that he could be closer to starting than we might think at this point

But if bergstrom is gonna be awful anyway then what's the harm really in shoving in a guy like eluemunor if he's not far off

 

[Sooky]

Ken mckusick (filmstudy) said some interesting things about bergstrom and eluemunor - bergstrom was absolutely awful coming in as relief and seems to just not have the functional strength inside to be even ok - and the way harbs was speaking about eluemunor suggests that given our dearth of talent and the fact that he fits our physical mold that he could be closer to starting than we might think at this point

But if bergstrom is gonna be awful anyway then what's the harm really in shoving in a guy like eluemunor if he's not far off

That's what I am thinking. I really do believe that Bergstrom was brought in to be that Jah Reid type player for us in the past. Not really great but can play several positions. I wouldn't be surprised if even at this point in time Eluemunor is better at guard than Bergstrom, but that position versatility really is helpful to minimize OL needed dressed on game days.

But who knows maybe Bergstrom is just learning the system still he is quite new. Maybe a week or two this will be a different story.

 

[rossihunter2]

But who knows maybe Bergstrom is just learning the system still he is quite new. Maybe a week or two this will be a different story.

I dunno, there's a difference between being behind mentally in terms of the playbook or play speed and just not being strong enough in my view...

 

[Sooky]

I dunno, there's a difference between being behind mentally in terms of the playbook or play speed and just not being strong enough in my view...

I agree the chances of him playing better may be slim because of his strength. To be honest Yanda on one leg is probably better than every o-linemen on this team outside of Stanley.

 

[Sandtown]

Austin Howard has played very well these past two games and tbh he's completely justfying the decision of letting go of Wagner as of now. We're getting close to the same production through these two games as Wagner at literally more than half the price. I'm not a huge PFF fan but if they got him as the #6 RT than I don't think he's a problem for us. In our case, injuries just ruined everything. You don't put all your resources into the depth at RG when you have a proven iron man who plays at a elite level through any injury.

I didn't think in my wildest imagination that Yanda would ever be done for the year. Guy has been an iron man and even when he's got an injury he plays at an elite level. If there's anyone you want to be on to be there for you for a full 16 game season, it's Yanda.

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I agree with everything you said. Not only was Austin Howard cheaper but he probably was a better fit than Ricky Wagner in Greg Roman blocking scheme. Wagner was a better fit for The Lions not only because they run the zone blocking scheme but Matthew Stafford has consistently passed the ball for over 560 times for the past four years. That's not a ideal number passing atempt wise The Ravens coaching staff want Joe Flacco doing each year. The Lions have made it clear over the years that they are a passing first offense and will pass the ball alot. It's not that The Ravens don't want to pass the ball but they made it clear that they don't want Joe Flacco passing the ball like he did last year and they want to get back to running the ball .

Ricky Wagner was not going to help improve The Ravens run blocking and I get that this is a so called passing league but The Ravens just not a finesse type offense or team.

 

[The Raven]

If you ask me, we'd be fucking stupid to not start Eluemunor. I don't think the dropoff from Bowanko/Bergstrom to Eluemunor is that steep. They're old stop gaps and he's the future. This offense -- make no mistake -- is still in rebuilding mode. I think it makes sense to start the promising rookie, who probably isn't that much worse than the veteran alternative. At least he'll get better, where as Bowanko and Bergstrom have already become what they will be.

Eluemunor legit has Carl Nicks potential. Let's let him realize it.

I'm also biased because I like maulers and I've already made the bold call that Eluemunor is Yanda's successor in two years.

Downside: We'd have a somewhat slow right side that may not hold up in pass protection. Upside: We'll average about 10 yards a carry on the right side.

 

[Sooky]

If you ask me, we'd be fucking stupid to not start Eluemunor. I don't think the dropoff from Bowanko/Bergstrom to Eluemunor is that steep. They're old stop gaps and he's the future. This offense -- make no mistake -- is still in rebuilding mode. I think it makes sense to start the promising rookie, who probably isn't that much worse than the veteran alternative. At least he'll get better, where as Bowanko and Bergstrom have already become what they will be.

Eluemunor legit has Carl Nicks potential. Let's let him realize it.

I'm also biased because I like maulers and I've already made the bold call that Eluemunor is Yanda's successor in two years.

Downside: We'd have a somewhat slow right side that may not hold up in pass protection. Upside: We'll average about 10 yards a carry on the right side.

I actually really think he could be the next K.O. for us. He is pretty raw though but I think he has that potential to be that free agent in 4 years that tops the market at his position. He has the tools he is just new to football but it sounds like Harbaugh likes him.

 

[The Raven]

I actually really think he could be the next K.O. for us. He is pretty raw though but I think he has that potential to be that free agent in 4 years that tops the market at his position. He has the tools he is just new to football but it sounds like Harbaugh likes him.

He's a massive, strong man with underrated athleticism. He's tough as nails and plays to the whistle. He's Harbaugh's prototype lineman.

The growth I saw from Eluemunor from week one to week four of the preseason was fairly substantial. Maybe it's a risk to start him this week but I'd like to see him playing after the bye.

 

[rossihunter2]

As much as Howard disappointed in preseason and as much as people were clamouring for him to be moved to guard I've been mightily impressed with his play the first 2 weeks and he improved against the browns - with him, Stanley and Jensen also improving this week it bodes well for us despite losing yanda - hurst just needs to be average and then we only need someone to not shit the bed at right guard for us to be ok

 

[rossihunter2]

I didn't realise this but I just saw that PFF graded Ryan Jensen as the third best center in the league this week - add that to filmstudy scoring him as improved from last week as well has to be encouraging that we've unearthed one of the good ones - if he properly develops into a mauler inside then that will help us to work around yanda's absence

 

[Ravensnation5220]

I didn't realise this but I just saw that PFF graded Ryan Jensen as the third best center in the league this week - add that to filmstudy scoring him as improved from last week as well has to be encouraging that we've unearthed one of the good ones - if he properly develops into a mauler inside then that will help us to work around yanda's absence

Were honestly abouve average at the edges and our center. Its our guards that are just shot. I did see someone tweet (not sure who) that James Carpenter OG of the Jets could be a possibility for us. If anyone knows how good he is would be nice to get some insight on this guy

 

[Rav'n Maniac]

I didn't realise this but I just saw that PFF graded Ryan Jensen as the third best center in the league this week - add that to filmstudy scoring him as improved from last week as well has to be encouraging that we've unearthed one of the good ones - if he properly develops into a mauler inside then that will help us to work around yanda's absence

That's awesome to hear, just needs to keep it up. It's about time we've received some good OL news for a change.

 

[cobrajet]

Just watched a little bit of tape and piggybacking off of what FilmStudy said, Bergstrom did not look good at all. I know he was coming in relief of Yanda but man he was pretty underwhelming.

I was afraid at first I was just being critical of Bergstrom, because I saw the same thing. I have been in a funk over losing Yanda on Sunday.

 

[cobrajet]

As much as Howard disappointed in preseason and as much as people were clamouring for him to be moved to guard I've been mightily impressed with his play the first 2 weeks and he improved against the browns - with him, Stanley and Jensen also improving this week it bodes well for us despite losing yanda - hurst just needs to be average and then we only need someone to not shit the bed at right guard for us to be ok

I was stOked when we signed him, then I saw him in the preseason and was very disappointed. I don't know what turned him around, but he has been decent in the first two games.

 

[The Greek]

i personally feel bergstrom improves and if i am wrong than they will make the changes to the line as they see fit. i actually would like to see us approach teams that are rebuilding like the jets or niners and see if they are willing to part with one of their starting guards like james carpenter(jets) or brandon fusco (niners)

 

[Oldfaithful]

I was stOked when we signed him, then I saw him in the preseason and was very disappointed. I don't know what turned him around, but he has been decent in the first two games.

He probably just knocked the rust off and got into shape. He was coming off of two season ending injuries(that he played through... Jesus that dude is a tough motherfucker).

I would hope that he has one good season left in him after this one.

That's awesome to hear, just needs to keep it up. It's about time we've received some good OL news for a change.

I still feel as if Jensen is going to finish the season as only an above average center..... which is fine. There are a plethora of franchise LTs in the NFL.
Elite centers on the other hand are a lot harder to come by. Above average centers also don't grow on trees either. So he's a strong point as well if he keeps it up *knock on wood*.

Just get us a good LG for next season and..... Holy shit we'd basically be set on offense. And defense for once.

 

[Dom McRaven]

That's awesome to hear, just needs to keep it up. It's about time we've received some good OL news for a change.

That profile pic......

 

[Rav'n Maniac]

That profile pic......

Yea, her shoulder pads slid down a bit.

 

[TheCity5]

If you ask me, we'd be fucking stupid to not start Eluemunor. I don't think the dropoff from Bowanko/Bergstrom to Eluemunor is that steep. They're old stop gaps and he's the future. This offense -- make no mistake -- is still in rebuilding mode. I think it makes sense to start the promising rookie, who probably isn't that much worse than the veteran alternative. At least he'll get better, where as Bowanko and Bergstrom have already become what they will be.

Eluemunor legit has Carl Nicks potential. Let's let him realize it.

I'm also biased because I like maulers and I've already made the bold call that Eluemunor is Yanda's successor in two years.

Downside: We'd have a somewhat slow right side that may not hold up in pass protection. Upside: We'll average about 10 yards a carry on the right side.

Eluemunor is bound to start soon. I'm biased when it comes to Maulers as well but he easily fits the identity of this offense more than any of the other candidates. He's got good strength and is physical as well. I don't know if he'll get the start because Harbaugh did say Bergstrom is next man up but I think it won't take long until Eluemunor takes over.