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2020 Edge Draft Thread

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
It depends on what type of edge player you're talking about but he most definitely can rush from the 7 tech spot but its hand in the dirt all the way and I'm talking extremely rare pass coverage. He's not a SAM or Will. Imo he's definitely a 3 down player that can play anywhere on the line depending on the situation and should immediately start over Wormley. He's a Suggs or a Rob Burnett/Mike McCrary if you remember them. I know you've been pining for a passrusher on the inside and Espenesa fits the bill. I really don't see him getting past the Patriots or the Seahawks but stranger things have happened
He’s not an OLB, but he’s certainly an edge, he just has movability, if that’s a word lol.

we don’t need to keep drafting guys who have rush potential and cover potential and watch them fail at both, and we don’t have to keep getting guys who are one dimensional as far as edge rush or run stuffing, we need a guy who has the natural tools to physically dominate and also has the athleticism and skill set to rush the passer, to hell with disguising and blitzing standup rushers and what not, put his hand in the dirt and send him screaming at the weakest softest fuck on that OL and let the rest of the defense handle that disguising and blitzing.

we don’t need to get a von Miller or Shaq Barrett, I mean yeah it would be nice to have a legit standup edge rusher/OLB with supreme explosiveness and rush moves etc. but what the ravens REALLY need first and foremost is someone across the front who can get to the qb and can get their asses in the backfield and be a disruption, being an edge who could be a full time DT in the nfl if he added 10lbs isn’t a detriment, that should be something that has us pounding the table lol.

I say this mostly because I feel like we are so set in coverage but our trenches are such trash that I’m looking for the biggest boon to our trenches, not standup LB play, not coverage, not pure edge rush, but who brings us the most to be able to shut down the run and attack their qb, not too many prospects who look like they can offer more to such a unique defensive situation.
 

Willbacker

Ravens Ring of Honor
He’s not an OLB, but he’s certainly an edge, he just has movability, if that’s a word lol.

we don’t need to keep drafting guys who have rush potential and cover potential and watch them fail at both, and we don’t have to keep getting guys who are one dimensional as far as edge rush or run stuffing, we need a guy who has the natural tools to physically dominate and also has the athleticism and skill set to rush the passer, to hell with disguising and blitzing standup rushers and what not, put his hand in the dirt and send him screaming at the weakest softest fuck on that OL and let the rest of the defense handle that disguising and blitzing.

we don’t need to get a von Miller or Shaq Barrett, I mean yeah it would be nice to have a legit standup edge rusher/OLB with supreme explosiveness and rush moves etc. but what the ravens REALLY need first and foremost is someone across the front who can get to the qb and can get their asses in the backfield and be a disruption, being an edge who could be a full time DT in the nfl if he added 10lbs isn’t a detriment, that should be something that has us pounding the table lol.

I say this mostly because I feel like we are so set in coverage but our trenches are such trash that I’m looking for the biggest boon to our trenches, not standup LB play, not coverage, not pure edge rush, but who brings us the most to be able to shut down the run and attack their qb, not too many prospects who look like they can offer more to such a unique defensive situation.

Amen.
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
i am very glad this tweet sent me back to the tape - it's bumped him up a whole round - he's so strong at the point of attack, his arm length is a huge weapon and he's just a violent pass rusher who has a sense of inevitability about him - most often lined up outside but has some flashy reps at 4i or 3t too - not going to be a SAM for us but definitely could be the Rush LB

he looks to me like he has a floor that says he'll be in the league a long time even if he doesnt hit his ceiling
 

Dom McRaven

Hall of Famer
well this is sending me back to the khalid kareem tape had him as a 3rd rounder but worth taking another look... especially as he was one of the first few guys i watched


Is this gentleman a Ravens fan? Not that it matters, but I do recall him giving us/Lamar a lot of praise during the reg. season.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
well this is sending me back to the khalid kareem tape had him as a 3rd rounder but worth taking another look... especially as he was one of the first few guys i watched


I’m quite the fan of kollman so I’ll take a good look at him.

but I have to wonder... does “ravens 3rd rounder turned into a star” mean he’s a bullrush specialist who doesn’t seem to have a concrete position in the nfl? Because for some reason that’s the vibe I get from that description lol
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
I’m quite the fan of kollman so I’ll take a good look at him.

but I have to wonder... does “ravens 3rd rounder turned into a star” mean he’s a bullrush specialist who doesn’t seem to have a concrete position in the nfl? Because for some reason that’s the vibe I get from that description lol

to me he's an edge but i can see the argument for him playing 3-4 DE
 

Dom McRaven

Hall of Famer
I’m quite the fan of kollman so I’ll take a good look at him.

but I have to wonder... does “ravens 3rd rounder turned into a star” mean he’s a bullrush specialist who doesn’t seem to have a concrete position in the nfl? Because for some reason that’s the vibe I get from that description lol
I interpret his phrase as a prospect who got slept on, turns into a star, and has people asking "how did he fall to the 3rd?"
 

Davesta

Ravens Ring of Honor
umm wow - jonathan greenard's arms are nearly 35" long - only one other players has arms the same length - yetur gross-matos

Welp.. gonna stop targeting him in the 2nd round of all my mock drafts. He ain’t making it to us.
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
the lamar praise i think was because kollmann was basically admitting he was completely wrong on lamar from what i recall - pretty sure he's not a ravens fan
nice when people can admit their mistake and not dig in. Too many idiots in the media...
 
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