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High On / Lower On: Prospects Edition

RavensMania

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I saw this thread on another board and wanted to have it on PF.

Lets get those draft crushes and overrated prospects out there, give me 5 guys you're higher than the consensus on and 5 you're lower on:
 

Batcerb

Practice Squad
Yeah good:
Cesar Ruiz
Ross Blacklock
Kyle Dugger
Anfernee Jennings
Curtis Weaver

Lower on:
YGM
Kenneth Murray
 
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Davesta

Ravens Ring of Honor
Higher on:
Troy Dye
Khalid Kareem
Bryce Hall
Jonathan Taylor
Donovan People-Jones

Lower on:
Kenneth Murray
Patrick Queen (he came out of nowhere)
Laviska Shenault
Kj Hamler
Tee Higgins
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
Higher on:
Cesar Ruiz
Denzel Mims
Zack moss
Alex highsmith
Damien Lewis
Curtis weaver

lower on:
Jk dobbins
Tee Higgins
Lloyd cushenberry
Yetur gross-matos
Kenneth Murray
 

rossihunter2

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lots of great answers so far...

im gonna do more than 5 lol

Higher On:
  • Jonathan Greenard
  • Justin Madubuike
  • Bryce Hall
  • Denzel Mims
  • Cesar Ruiz
  • Khalid Kareem
  • Troy Dye
  • Malik Harrison
  • Robert Hunt
  • CJ Henderson
  • Damien Lewis
  • Josiah Scott
  • Chris Orr
Lower On:
  • Laviska Shenault Jr
  • Kenneth Murray
  • Yetur Gross-Matos
  • Josh Jones
  • Nick Harris
  • Tyler Biadasz
  • Curtis Weaver
  • James Lynch
  • Chase Claypool
  • Evan Weaver
 
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Higher on:
Netane Muti (mauler in the run game not bad in the pass game either)
Curtis Weaver (production speaks for itself, but someone please get this guy to meal prep and hit the weight room)
Denzel Mims (Baylors offensive scheme limited his route tree, but he can run every route)
Jalen Raegor (awful Qb play limited his production, he’s a true deep threat with ability to win underneath, should be in the conversation with Ruggs, Lamb, and Jeudy)
Kristian Fulton (elite press corner skills, solid hips)
Jaylon Johnson (extremely intelligent player as evidenced by his play in zone coverage, has the physical tools to play the position, reminds me of Marcus Peters so much. literally has plays on tape where he runs the receivers route for them)
(I think they’re all top 20 players in this draft)

Lower On:
Klavon Chaisson
Derrick Brown (all power, looks like nothing more than a run stopper)
mekhi becton (all physical tools, maybe he’ll get there one day, but he’s going to be a bad pass blocker to start his career)
Justin Herbert (Cam Newton throwing style, he only throws one speed. There’s no touch in his passes, really bad at passing underneath, but his deep ball accuracy is impressive)
 
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allblackraven

Hall of Famer
Like:

Mims
Davidson
Greenard
Aiyuk
T. Lewis
X McKinney
Henderson

Not so much:

Gros-Matos
Murray
Biadasz

Also like Lamar Jackson from all sorts of reasons. Not a fit for us though but it would be troll of all trolls if we pick him.
 
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rossihunter2

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Like:

Mims
Davidson
Greenard
Aiyuk
T. Lewis
X McKinney
Henderson

Not so much:

Gros-Matos
Murray
Biadasz

Also like Lamar Jackson from all sorts of reasons. Not a fit for us though but it would be troll of all trolls if we pick him.

how high is high for you on davidson and mckinney - i think mckinney is around the 16th best player in the draft and i have davidson at 22 - you any higher on them or does that feel right to you?

and im right there with you on henderson - the more i watch him the more the question seeps into my mind that he might be better than okudah as a prospect

im with you on basically your entire list though
 

cdp

Ravens Ring of Honor
Higher on:
Justin Jefferson
Antonio Gandy Golden
Andre Walker
Anthony Gordon
Josh Love
Darrynton Evans
Bronson Rechsteiner

Lower on:
AJ Epenesa
Joshua Uche
Murray
All TEs
 

allblackraven

Hall of Famer
how high is high for you on davidson and mckinney - i think mckinney is around the 16th best player in the draft and i have davidson at 22 - you any higher on them or does that feel right to you?

and im right there with you on henderson - the more i watch him the more the question seeps into my mind that he might be better than okudah as a prospect

im with you on basically your entire list though
I was hyping X for 2 years straight, basically starting telling people he's far better player once hype on Ronnie Harrison started. I don't watch a lot of tape so can't really gauge player's draft position compared to others but taking everything in account, I reckon late teens to early 20s is about right.

As far as Davidson goes, he probably has a mid first value based on versatility but that could be double-edged sward, too - hope he slides more after teams are undecided what his real position should be in pros.

I also can't decide between Okudah and Henderson - they both seem like a template of what CB should look like to play in our secondary. Both are awesome and both are unfortunately going top 10-15. For me, advantage Henderson because Ohio State.
 

rossihunter2

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I was hyping X for 2 years straight, basically starting telling people he's far better player once hype on Ronnie Harrison started. I don't watch a lot of tape so can't really gauge player's draft position compared to others but taking everything in account, I reckon late teens to early 20s is about right.

As far as Davidson goes, he probably has a mid first value based on versatility but that could be double-edged sward, too - hope he slides more after teams are undecided what his real position should be in pros.

I also can't decide between Okudah and Henderson - they both seem like a template of what CB should look like to play in our secondary. Both are awesome and both are unfortunately going top 10-15. For me, advantage Henderson because Ohio State.

it's not a need per se but i would not be against drafting mckinney at 28 if he were to somehow make it there - we spent over 40% of our snaps with only 1 LB (or 0) on the field anyway so there's still significant snaps in the dime package to take - right now those snaps are deshon elliott's but xavier mckinney could sure as hell come in and add value straight away to this defence - but id be surprised if he made it past dallas at 17

i basically have okudah and henderson stacked next to each other at 7th and 8th in the draft and then mims and jeudy stacked next to each other at 9th and 10th
 

allblackraven

Hall of Famer
it's not a need per se but i would not be against drafting mckinney at 28 if he were to somehow make it there - we spent over 40% of our snaps with only 1 LB (or 0) on the field anyway so there's still significant snaps in the dime package to take - right now those snaps are deshon elliott's but xavier mckinney could sure as hell come in and add value straight away to this defence - but id be surprised if he made it past dallas at 17

i basically have okudah and henderson stacked next to each other at 7th and 8th in the draft and then mims and jeudy stacked next to each other at 9th and 10th
Yep, X would likely be plug&play from day one in our secondary. He's got everything we want in terms of speed, physicality and smarts and I feel is very underrated in coverage.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
I’m liking Clyde Edwards-Helaire quite a bit, maybe my favorite of the class? Idk if I can give it to him over Taylor but his ability as a receiver really narrows the gap between the 2
 

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
I’m liking Clyde Edwards-Helaire quite a bit, maybe my favorite of the class? Idk if I can give it to him over Taylor but his ability as a receiver really narrows the gap between the 2

I would take him in the second if he's there. I'd doubt it but for what it's worth.
 

RavensMania

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I’m liking Clyde Edwards-Helaire quite a bit, maybe my favorite of the class? Idk if I can give it to him over Taylor but his ability as a receiver really narrows the gap between the 2
I think he will be there in the 3rd
 
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