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allblackraven

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wearing masks is not normal and not natural. Breathing in air is good for immunity unless the air is shit
the best way to get herd immunity is to have healthy people around and breathing FREELY

a mask does nothing. it's another stupid gimmick. a mask is only if you're going into a toxic atmosphere or if you're doing surgery so you don't sneeze on open wounds n shit
As I said - they wear it as a courtesy, so they don't sneeze or cough directly at others. You said the same but you're still arguing.
 

Sami84

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Nah there are some documented controversies Google has nothing to do with.
Even China (they could make shittone of money on it) said not to use hydrocholoroquin after they tried it due to impact it can have on heart electrical activity. Certainly it shouldn't be used if not under strict doctor's control
But I digress, China is not to be trusted either.

I know a dr in the US who was arrested for using IV vitamin C and iodine and he got 4 patients cured within 12 hours.
He was then arrested for using this protocol.

no one has ever died using natural medicine.

You see, I don't need to even know any of these reports. I know what this disease entails, it was clearly man made too and I can get into the science of that if you'd like
 

Sami84

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look

i sent you guys the most incredibly informative video on londonreal and it pretty much puts to bed the corporate/state WHO narrative you're being brainwashed into by mainstream media ( which they OWN if you follow the crumbs of investment).

It's very late here. I suggest everyone watches the video and you can make your own decisions. Get both sides and then you decide. I've said my part.

goodnight
 

Willbacker

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It took me literally 2 minutes to find out:
whois sciencedirect.com
[Querying whois.verisign-grs.com]
[Redirected to whois.safenames.net]

Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry
Registrant Name: Data protected, not disclosed
Registrant Organisation: Elsevier Ltd
Registrant Street: The Boulevard
Registrant Street: Langford Lane, Kidlington
Registrant City: Oxfordshire
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code: OX5 1GB
Registrant Country: UK

Turns out it's a Dutch publishing company (Elsevier) who will publish anything for money. Quick Google search is enough to give me a big pause before looking into it more, which I can't be bothered with. Advice: stay clear.

So I assume that documentation is a lie to you. Here's another one.

https://www.virology.ws/2020/03/19/...viral-load-and-symptoms-in-covid-19-patients/

I'm sure this one is wrong too. Seriously don't you understand why you're so against this drug? I mean if you really want to follow the coatails of what the WHO said then you know covid isn't even humanely transferrable.
 

Willbacker

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Also when it comes to side effects this also can occur in patients taking hydro for malaria but they still take it. Millions of people take so quit with the argument of side effects. Its a stupid f'n argument cuz every drug has side effects. Might as well stop chemotherapy while we're at it. You know side effects. Its a bunch of fuckinbg scare tactics from the MSM
 

allblackraven

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So I assume that documentation is a lie to you. Here's another one.

https://www.virology.ws/2020/03/19/...viral-load-and-symptoms-in-covid-19-patients/

I'm sure this one is wrong too. Seriously don't you understand why you're so against this drug? I mean if you really want to follow the coatails of what the WHO said then you know covid isn't even humanely transferrable.
No need to make assumptions - I clearly stated that I am making a pause on that one, since the reputation of said publisher worries me but I can't be bothered to read more. Again, if I am going to trust somebody, it would be doctors in New Zealand who obviously know what they are doing, having contained the virus in the first place, then helped 97% of infected people recover so far. They lost 21 people to covid-19, all older than 60 and all with severe underlying health conditions.
 

JO_75

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Michigan's Governor is going to destroy the state. She's extending their lockdown to June 12th. Meanwhile other states are in the process of re-opening in phases.
 

Inqui

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Michigan's Governor is going to destroy the state. She's extending their lockdown to June 12th. Meanwhile other states are in the process of re-opening in phases.
It doesn't pay to underestimate the risk of the second wave just because the lockdowns are being lifted in places. It doesn't mean the virus has been eradicated, it just means they have room for people in hospitals again.

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That's the Spanish flu death toll over time, and you can see where people started to decide they couldn't be bothered with lockdowns anymore. And how well that worked out.
 

allblackraven

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It doesn't pay to underestimate the risk of the second wave just because the lockdowns are being lifted in places. It doesn't mean the virus has been eradicated, it just means they have room for people in hospitals again.

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That's the Spanish flu death toll over time, and you can see where people started to decide they couldn't be bothered with lockdowns anymore. And how well that worked out.
Southern Europe opening for a tourist season makes me pretty nervous. They haven't acted on time, and now trying to fix the fuckup with desperation. Still counting infections and deaths in hundreds on a daily basis, it's way too early.
 

Inqui

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Southern Europe opening for a tourist season makes me pretty nervous. They haven't acted on time, and now trying to fix the fuckup with desperation. Still counting infections and deaths in hundreds on a daily basis, it's way too early.
I feel sorry for Greece in this case. They did all the right things early on and closed everything down, and now they're in kind of a no-win situation. They either risk introducing the virus after getting it largely under control or they lose a massive export earner. Everyone's in a no-win situation, but I feel more sympathy for Greece than I do for some of the other countries that tried to pretend everything's fine.

Italy's done a better job of holding their nerve than Spain and the infections rate is beginning to show (another score for the "lockdowns work" column), but I share your concern about this rush to get back to normal. They'll regret it in the long run.

That's the problem with a disjointed approach though. Even if the virus gets eradicated everywhere else, all it takes is one state being useless to risk ruining it for the rest (I never thought we'd be able to compare Sweden and the Netherlands with Florida but here we are...).
 

Sami84

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!!!!!!!! boy the media have got you good.
It doesn't pay to underestimate the risk of the second wave just because the lockdowns are being lifted in places. It doesn't mean the virus has been eradicated, it just means they have room for people in hospitals again.

death-chart.jpg


That's the Spanish flu death toll over time, and you can see where people started to decide they couldn't be bothered with lockdowns anymore. And how well that worked out.

The data regarding the spanish flu is notoriously inaccurate. I'd take that with a side of Pisto. ( Pun intended).
If you're going to die of covid 19 your end is near anyway. It's a sign death was knocking on your door and your body never had the capacity to deal with any pathological issue. A vaccine will end up killing healthy people too. Vaccines btw, if you know the deep science, end up modifying your DNA over generations!

MEET THE "REAL" BILL GATES.. IT'S NOT A PRETTY STORY.

By Lawrence Sosna

There was a time Bill Gates vaccinated millions of women claiming it safe (HPV Vaccine) and sterilized them without their knowledge!
Let’s take a deep dive into Bill Gates’ megalomaniacal vaccination program that he has planned for everyone, now that the people who stand to get very rich from a COVID-19 vaccine are telling us that they want to force everyone to get the shot.

The nation of India, which struggles with sanitation and disease outbreaks, finally kicked Bill Gates out of the country in 2017. Why did that happen?
Back in 2000, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation offered a ton of money to India, in exchange for having its own handpicked “experts” put in charge of India’s National Technical Advisory Group on Immunization (NTAGI).

Bill Gates’ experts recommended that children in India be given FIFTY polio shots before age 5. The result between 2000 and 2017 was that 490,000 children in India were crippled with non-polio acute flaccid paralysis. It may not sound so bad to some , but non-polio acute flaccid paralysis is actually a horrible disease that leaves children paralyzed!!!

In another example in India, Gates funded an HPV vaccine that was administered to 23,000 girls in rural parts of the country (away from prying eyes, journalists and ethicists). According to a case that is now before the India Supreme Court, the Gates “doctors” bullied girls and their families into taking the shots, forged consent forms and then refused medical care to girls who were harmed by the vaccine. 5% of the girls immediately developed autoimmune and/or fertility disorders, and seven of the girls died after taking the shot.
Former CIA and Pentagon Advisor: “Millions of Americans are in DANGER!”
***We know a similar vaccine was given to our granddaughter this yr and two wks later she experienced her first seizure. Since has been diagnosed “New Onset Epilepsy”

You’ve probably heard about the Ted Talk that Bill Gates gave in 2010, in which he declared that vaccines “could reduce population.” He gave the World Health Organization $10 billion around the same time that he made that declaration. Four years later, the nation of Kenya found out what those chilling words meant.

The WHO went into Kenya in 2014 and declared that every woman needed a tetanus shot due to a public health emergency. Not the men. It was only the women who were in danger of, you know… stepping on a rusty nail and developing tetanus. The goal was to get as many women as possible injected with the new “Bill Gates tetanus vaccine”. When people were skeptical about this, the Kenyan government stepped in by helping the WHO administer forced vaccinations.
When millions of women who were forced to take the shot later realized that they could no longer get pregnant, the Catholic Doctors Association sent the Bill Gates tetanus vaccine out to independent labs for testing. Every single sample that was looked at by separate laboratories found a sterility formula in the tetanus shots.

The WHO denied it initially, but finally admitted that it had been working on a sterility vaccine since 2004. This isn’t some Alex Jones conspiracy rant. These are facts that you can look up for yourself, which the garbage media in America conveniently declines to report on.

In 2002, the Gates Foundation funded an experimental meningitis vaccine in Africa, administered to 500 children. 10% of the kids were paralyzed by the vaccine.
Gates funded an experimental malaria vaccine trial in Africa in 2010, which was administered to about 6,000 babies. The result: 151 dead from the vaccine, and 20% of them suffered paralysis, seizures or febrile convulsions.

That’s an awesome track record from a guy who wants to rush an untested coronavirus vaccine into the marketplace while forcing everyone to get the shot. He wants to jab everyone (except himself & his own children) with a needle.
 

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Sami84

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Also, if you know anything about the gates familly they were always passionate about eugenics and lowering world population. This is his vision. ( through vaccinations)
 

Sami84

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I'll never ever take a vaccine for the rest of my life. It would be the worst possible thing to do. Dr Buttar nails it here

 

Sami84

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and if you wonder where you're getting all your info from.,follow the money
 

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Sami84

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They've been running it for ever. Creating issues, manipulating all the wealth and information and then taking credit for ''solutions'' which are anything but...

Fauci Photographed With Soros and Bill Gates’ Father c. 2001

"NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES (NIAID) DIRECTOR DR. ANTHONY FAUCI WAS PHOTOGRAPHED WITH A COTERIE OF GLOBALIST ELITES IN 2001 AT THE CARNEGIE MEDAL OF PHILANTHROPY EVENT. THE UNASSUMING GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRAT WAS PRESENT ALONGSIDE SUCH TITANS OF GLOBALISM AS TED TURNER, DAVID ROCKEFELLER, GEORGE SOROS, AND BILL GATES SR. RECORDS REVEAL THAT GATES SR. WAS A BOARD MEMBER OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD PRIOR TO THE ROE V. WADE SUPREME COURT DECISION, AND BILL GATES HIMSELF SAID IN A VIDEO CLIP (BELOW) THAT HIS FATHER WAS THE “HEAD OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD.” THIS YEARS-LONG RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN FAUCI AND THE GATES FAMILY IS FURTHER ILLUSTRATED IN THIS ARTICLE BELOW AS FAUCI NOW LEADS THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT’S CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE AS HIS FRIEND BILL GATES AGITATES FOR POPULATION LOCKDOWN UNTIL A GATES-FUNDED VACCINE HITS THE MARKET." - MAY 20, 2020 CONSTITUTIONAL NOBODY
 

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cdp

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They've been running it for ever. Creating issues, manipulating all the wealth and information and then taking credit for ''solutions'' which are anything but...

Fauci Photographed With Soros and Bill Gates’ Father c. 2001

"NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES (NIAID) DIRECTOR DR. ANTHONY FAUCI WAS PHOTOGRAPHED WITH A COTERIE OF GLOBALIST ELITES IN 2001 AT THE CARNEGIE MEDAL OF PHILANTHROPY EVENT. THE UNASSUMING GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRAT WAS PRESENT ALONGSIDE SUCH TITANS OF GLOBALISM AS TED TURNER, DAVID ROCKEFELLER, GEORGE SOROS, AND BILL GATES SR. RECORDS REVEAL THAT GATES SR. WAS A BOARD MEMBER OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD PRIOR TO THE ROE V. WADE SUPREME COURT DECISION, AND BILL GATES HIMSELF SAID IN A VIDEO CLIP (BELOW) THAT HIS FATHER WAS THE “HEAD OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD.” THIS YEARS-LONG RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN FAUCI AND THE GATES FAMILY IS FURTHER ILLUSTRATED IN THIS ARTICLE BELOW AS FAUCI NOW LEADS THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT’S CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE AS HIS FRIEND BILL GATES AGITATES FOR POPULATION LOCKDOWN UNTIL A GATES-FUNDED VACCINE HITS THE MARKET." - MAY 20, 2020 CONSTITUTIONAL NOBODY
Wouldn't it have been more effective if they had already developped a vaccine before? Coronaviruses are not new, but pharma and others have failed to develop one yet.
Yes money = power. But why don't you focus on stuff thats proven but media doesn't talk about?
The FED is printing trillions of dollars to buy junk-bonds and ETFs, why are banks and the banking system too big to fail but the real economy isn't? Hertz is a big car rental company which had to fil for bankruptcy. Just last year they bought 10% of US auto industry production.
 

Sami84

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Wouldn't it have been more effective if they had already developped a vaccine before? Coronaviruses are not new, but pharma and others have failed to develop one yet.
Yes money = power. But why don't you focus on stuff thats proven but media doesn't talk about?
The FED is printing trillions of dollars to buy junk-bonds and ETFs, why are banks and the banking system too big to fail but the real economy isn't? Hertz is a big car rental company which had to fil for bankruptcy. Just last year they bought 10% of US auto industry production.

Oh buddy, gates already has the patent for the coronavirus vaccine.
 
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