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2021 NFL Draft Gameday Draft Thread

What position will the Ravens select with their first pick in the draft?


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Willbacker

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I think a lot of people keep forgetting we might move Bozeman to C and pick up a G. Wouldn't shock me if bother the 3rds go to OL.

The signing of Zeitler was big time and could help a center out. He's very yandalike imo but I'm thinking a tackle is more needed or a true center than a guard. We drafted both Powers and Bredeson in the 4th rd the last 2 yrs and one of them needs to step up if they move Bozeman over which I'm starting to think is more likely by the day.
 

RavensMania

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A center touches the ball on every play. We lost games cuz of bad center play. Thank goodness Skura was shown the door. TCC or moving Bozeman over maybe if Powers or Bredeson can step up at LG but a swing tackle is highly needed. Right now I think Dennis Kelly is the perfect fit for RT and signing Houston or Kerrigan on a 1 yr deal is a must.
Dennis Kelly would be good but I'd like to sign Villanueva and Kelly.
 

RavensMania

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Tbf a line of Stanley, Powers (his natural position), Bozeman, Zeitler, ??? Is probably better than what we had last year if only by a half step
maybe to start the season, but after Stanley went down we had a makeshift right tackle and had to move Orlando Brown to left tackle. Plus we had a hole at right guard, although Powers played decent, he wasn't anything like Yanda. We also get Boyle back and he will also help the blocking a lot. He was definitely missed when he went down.
 

UPennChem

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maybe to start the season, but after Stanley went down we had a makeshift right tackle and had to move Orlando Brown to left tackle. Plus we had a hole at right guard, although Powers played decent, he wasn't anything like Yanda. We also get Boyle back and he will also help the blocking a lot. He was definitely missed when he went down.

I dont disagree with you at all. I guess from my perspective at the end of last year we were getting admirable play from LT, LG, and RG. We were definitely getting suboptimal play at C, and RT.

With the above mentioned line, we might only be getting suboptimal play at RT. With a veteran like AV and as you mentioned the return of Boyle, if we stay healthy, that could be a real unit.
 

rmcjacket23

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maybe to start the season, but after Stanley went down we had a makeshift right tackle and had to move Orlando Brown to left tackle. Plus we had a hole at right guard, although Powers played decent, he wasn't anything like Yanda. We also get Boyle back and he will also help the blocking a lot. He was definitely missed when he went down.
Right. We need to add a starting RT (likely through FA) and add depth. That's the objective, I think.

In an optimal world, you'd have kept Bozeman at LG and brought in a quality Center. While that's not impossible to happen today or tomorrow, it also becomes less and less likely as the draft goes on.

We need two Tackles. That's what I would want to come out of the next few weeks with. I would consider a line of Brown/Powers/Bozeman/Zeitler/Veteran to likely be on par or maybe slightly worse than last year's "optimal 5". We should be better at Center and RG, but weaker at RT. This, though, assumes that Bozeman is a competent Center.

The challenge is depth. Again, nobody can feel good about Phillips as your swing tackle, and while I don't think the depth on the interior is terrible, it could be stretched thin if you have multiple injuries. You really have Bredeson and then maybe somebody like TCC, but he projects as mostly a Center.

At this point, depth on the Oline is as important as getting starter play, because the likelihood of your entire Oline playing 17 games together is extremely small.

I fully expect them to add two Olineman in this draft, one who can play outside, and one who can play inside. And then add a veteran in FA.

Without knowing how the board will shake out, I'd probably be targeting Oline and then maybe either a Safety or DB of some kind today. I think if you're convinced you can sign a veteran pass rusher, you probably don't need to emphasize that position much, and I think you're largely set at WR.

Oline, TE, Safety/DBs is probably where I'd be focused on for the rest of the draft.
 

Edgar

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I started talking myself into Oweh last night...a little. But it was late.
Watched him this morning a bunch and he is very very raw.
cons:
1) stands straight up off the line and gives up his chest.
2)is often the last guy late off the ball,
3) the athleticism does not translate to any real juice off the line, has to be able to win outside with athleticism
4)is indecisive as pass rusher,
5)poor timing with hands,
6)at times undisciplined vs the run in backside contain.
7)Only 2 examples I have managed to find but appeared clueless and unsure dropping in coverage.

pros:
1 Shows consistent power in bull rush
2) I do think he will be a good edge setter
3) was playing out of position (for ravens)
4) stuff to work with to be sure, its just a question of how long it takes
 

Ellicottraven

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  • Height-weight-speed freak - and i mean like rare freakish athleticism
  • high effort, chasing down plays from the backside (with the speed to actually chase WRs down from behind)
  • Decent run-defender - was living off his athleticism a bit and his pad level can rise too high but can stack and shed with violence and force
  • Powerful, fast
  • Change of direction and length allows him to adjust vs jukes and elusive ball carriers to make tackles - was really productive in 2020 in run defence
  • Has powerful hands when he connects – intuitive with his hands to get clean at the top of his rush – not super technical but has reps that show power – flashes really good hand usage but it’s inconsistent at best
  • His biggest issue right now (for me) is that he doesnt seem to rush with a plan and hasn't developed a signature move yet...
  • At the moment he wins with absurd quickness – first step explosion to immediately challenge the outside and can dip and bend with force to flatten
  • He's raw, especially as a pass rusher - but the movement and frame are off the charts incredible
Thanks. I kind of like his chances of developing under Wink and gang. Wink is a master motivator that tends to bring the best out of players and the position coaches are great teachers. If Oweh puts in the time and hard work, he may indeed turn out to be the best pass rusher of this class.
 

rossihunter2

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  • Seems unlikely we'll be getting a significant upgrade at Safety this offseason. Don't know that its reasonable to think even a late 3rd rounder would be able to outplay Elliott or Clark at this point. Likely to be a 2022 plan.

i think you're right that a 3rd rounder's unlikely to usurp elliott or clark - but depending on who we get, they might be able to contribute in dime packages - especially if they have some versatility

  • NY Jets - a bit nitty here. Just didn't like the trade up to get Vera-Tucker. I'm sure he'll be a good player, but they give up two 3rd rounders to move up 9 spots for a Guard. That seems very dicey to me. They still have #34 today, but won't have any other picks on day two. I would have liked to have seen them keep the picks to help out the defense and address Oline needs on day two.

for what it's worth, AVT also played tackle - could probably play either
my guess is they'll take one of the next tier of corners that's available: tyson campbell/ifeatu melifonwu/asante samuel jr
 

rossihunter2

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So is there any good centers or swing tackles I can look forward to with our low 3rd rd piucks. It's gonna kill me watching guys like Eichenberg, Meinerz, Josh Meyers, all fall to the wayside let alone Jenkins and Humphreys. Can Landon Dickerson fall to our pick?

i just started this thread in the draft section:

https://purpleflock.com/threads/3708/ -
Day 2 Best Players Available

ive listed all the OL who are 94th or higher on my board
 

Ravensnation5220

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I started talking myself into Oweh last night...a little. But it was late.
Watched him this morning a bunch and he is very very raw.
cons:
1) stands straight up off the line and gives up his chest.
2)is often the last guy late off the ball,
3) the athleticism does not translate to any real juice off the line, has to be able to win outside with athleticism
4)is indecisive as pass rusher,
5)poor timing with hands,
6)at times undisciplined vs the run in backside contain.
7)Only 2 examples I have managed to find but appeared clueless and unsure dropping in coverage.

pros:
1 Shows consistent power in bull rush
2) I do think he will be a good edge setter
3) was playing out of position (for ravens)
4) stuff to work with to be sure, its just a question of how long it takes
just posted what i think was his best game as a pass rusher vs indiana in his own thread. If you havent already taken a look ireccomend so. Shows his upside the best i believe along with some flaws as well
 

rossihunter2

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Moderator
I want OL or a safety ideally but I also think we could benefit from D-line or even another EDGE.

hard to say who to root for (realistically) given that our pick is 61 slots away and i have no idea how the league views some of these guys

but some guys i really like for those 3rd round picks who might be there:

S Ar'Darius Washington
S Jamar Johnson
CB Kelvin Joseph
OT Jackson Carman
OT Jaylen Mayfield
OT Spencer Brown
OT Brady Christensen
OT Stone Forsythe
OT Walker LIttle
OG Deonte Brown
OG Aaron Banks
 
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