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Inqui said:
I was wrong about the 90%, it was actually 75% of cases going back to the 16th century (here's an excellent read on the phenomenon - and before anyone accuses me of peddling leftist propaganda this was written while Obama was president) but I suspect if you went back beyond that France-Hapbsburgs clash the number would increase. But it's the kind of dynamic that requires a delicate touch and a more nuanced approach than simply seeing things in terms of winners and losers where the winners take all and the losers get crushed. That's why every foreign minister in the Asia-Pacific is on edge atm.

Solving climate change and the move to renewables are a great avenue for forming a co-operative and productive relationship between the world's major powers while creating massive new export markets. I mean, you're literally looking at the most likely solution for bringing about world peace AND making a fuck ton of money for everyone in the process. What's not to like?
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And that’s one of the things I really don’t understand because fossil fuel power is at its most efficient virtually (marginal gains at most) but renewables have so many different methods and are still so untapped that there is a lot of advancement and development available + once you get renewables into the electric grid your energy company can market themselves as a clean energy provider and I know in the uk at least that sometimes people agree to pay more per month (within reason) if the company is producing lots of clean energy
 
rossihunter2 said:
I just don’t understand why people refuse to believe it and that it is as bad as it is - science has a unanimous consensus on this issue in peer-reviewed studies - no one doubts any other parts of “science” so why this one?

You’re 100% right this should not be and should never have been a partisan issue
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See what you need to understand is that there have been warm periods and cold periods thruout the history of the earth. Study the warm temp for example between 950 AD and 1100 AD just for example. Was that man made climate change??
 
I really hope that all of you are right and climate change isn't a thing.....because 40 years from today when im in my 60s I do not want to deal with a Category 8 Hurricane.....


Christ...
 
gtalk12 said:
I really hope that all of you are right and climate change isn't a thing.....because 40 years from today when im in my 60s I do not want to deal with a Category 8 Hurricane.....


Christ...
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I remember when I was growing everybody was saying we're heading for the next Ice Age. And guess what it was coming from scientists too. Hell I'd like somebody to explain to me why its warmer in Sept and Oct now but colder in April and May.
 
gtalk12 said:
I really hope that all of you are right and climate change isn't a thing.....because 40 years from today when im in my 60s I do not want to deal with a Category 8 Hurricane.....


Christ...
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40 yrs from today when you are in your sixties.....

 
Inqui said:
That's assuming there's still even a Maryland in 40 years' time in which to go to Ravens games. :p

In seriousness, I typed up a reply a while ago detailing how the Paris agreement is just every country in the world (except one - guess which) promising to cut emissions by enough to limit the rise in the world temperature - and how several other countries (including and especially China) are already taking the initiative by implementing policies out of their own wallets - but I always get depressed when I see climate change discussed as a partisan issue as if there's two sides to it (when it really should be a bipartisan one) and said countries' policies being discussed as if it's some kind of game theory move like OPEC where someone else cutting corners means everyone else foots the bill when in fact someone else cutting corners means we're all left high and dry.
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No question climate change should be a bipartison issue and a serious issue much more important than lowering the taxes of the wealthy and corpations. I’d actually rather pay more taxes to make sure the globe is here for future generations than worry about how much I’m going to pay in taxes.


Btw, think I’m going to stay at home ams watch those ravens games, but I’ll make sure my assisted living has Sunday Ticket and a very large television.
 
Willbacker said:
I wish I could give you a funny,an agree,a like and an informative all at the same time lmao.
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What makes this subject so interesting to me is, if you say there is "no such thing as climate change " well you are an idiot. The climate has been changing since the earth started orbiting the sun. The earths proximity and angel to the sun will, in fact, effect the climate.
There is a documented ice age the both began and ended without the influence of any man made device or the actions of any living being.

Has man and mans creations had an effect on climate stability?
Sure whatever. Climate change was going on well before us and I reckon it will be going on well after us. Either way, earth, much like it's inhabitants is quite adaptive. Very adaptive I would say.
With those two thoughts in mind what could mankind do that won't amount to much more than squirting an eye dropper of fluid into the Atlantic Ocean?
More over do I really want my government spending my hard earned tax dollars on these billion and trillion dollar budgets to yeild at best minimal results ?
Furthermore do I want my government to continue to overreach it's constitutional bounds and force unnecessary and ineffective control over its independently and privately owned businesse and its free citizens.

This isn't about the earth it is about control and wealth.
 
Willbacker said:
I remember when I was growing everybody was saying we're heading for the next Ice Age. And guess what it was coming from scientists too. Hell I'd like somebody to explain to me why its warmer in Sept and Oct now but colder in April and May.
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K-Dog said:
What makes this subject so interesting to me is, if you say there is "no such thing as climate change " well you are an idiot. The climate has been changing since the earth started orbiting the sun. The earths proximity and angel to the sun will, in fact, effect the climate.
There is a documented ice age the both began and ended without the influence of any man made device or the actions of any living being.

Has man and mans creations had an effect on climate stability?
Sure whatever. Climate change was going on well before us and I reckon it will be going on well after us. Either way, earth, much like it's inhabitants is quite adaptive. Very adaptive I would say.
With those two thoughts in mind what could mankind do that won't amount to much more than squirting an eye dropper of fluid into the Atlantic Ocean?
More over do I really want my government spending my hard earned tax dollars on these billion and trillion dollar budgets to yeild at best minimal results ?
Furthermore do I want my government to continue to overreach it's constitutional bounds and force unnecessary and ineffective control over its independently and privately owned businesse and its free citizens.

This isn't about the earth it is about control and wealth.
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Yes the earth goes through natural fluctuations in carbon dioxide levels and resets itself with ice ages but the earth has never been this warm and never had this much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere before ever...

An average 2 degree rise in global temperature from this point would be catastrophic
 
K-Dog said:
Catastrophic?
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irreparable damage to coral reefs and crop yields, coastlines sink, sea-levels rise pretty dramatically, more floods but water resources will be depleated, more heatwaves, more wildfires, larger and more ferocious weather systems and storms, disease increases...
 
So it is your contention that while humans and animals are adaptive the earth is not?
Even within such a small window?
 
RavensMania said:
Wow, you make me feel ancient just by using the term wow, like you've never seen a 50 year old before. lol

Remember when you were born the Redskins one the super bowl! Not that you care about that, but that is kind of funny.
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I'm speaking to an avi, I don't know what the age differences are lol

My parents are in there 50's. That is young, youre a young buck lol
 
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