General Draft Thoughts

Deebo813 said:

Everyone and their mom knows that you only drink a lot of water to get a certain something out your system lol.. specifally weed..

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My wife and her family drink enough water regularly to have diluted samples.

I had a diluted sample once literally from drinking a sobe green tea with my lunch, I drink basically no water at all lol. The test was for a roofing company, so thank god that happened because fuck that.

maybe my favorite mock so far

watch us draft Murray and he turns into a superstar. lol

RavensMania said:

watch us draft Murray and he turns into a superstar. lol

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Nice to know I'm not the only one who feels this way. We shall accept the inevitable.

Am I the only one that doesn't hate Murray? I mean, he's not my favorite by any means, but I could think of a lot worse ways to spend a pick. Just seems like the consensus around here is hate and I don't really care to do the digging to figure out why.

The Ravens like Murray I'm thinking.

If Alaka is what I hope he is, Id say that Murray pairs up with him as our Will pretty nicely., at least to start.
Hes more physical and violent than Queen by a pretty wide margin and he fits better as a blitzer, even off the edge, but especially off the ball.

There is stuff I like about him for sure but one problem I have has to do with what I consider a bigger need in round one namely, D line/Pass rush.

Id prefer we get Davidson.Epenesa in round one over either LB. I think that type will be dry by the time we are back on the clock but we might land a LB there more readily.

I talked myself into Willie Gay in the 2nd over Murray in the first because of this. He does a lot of what Murray can do to my mind...some of the same issues as well but...

JoeyFlex5 said:

My wife and her family drink enough water regularly to have diluted samples.

I had a diluted sample once literally from drinking a sobe green tea with my lunch, I drink basically no water at all lol. The test was for a roofing company, so thank god that happened because fuck that.

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I drink water alot too. i may have a soda like once a week but even then i cant drink it all.. i had baby kidney stones like 5yrs ago so you can just imagine how much water i drink lol... tbh i dnt even know if my shit ever been diluted cause i snt get tested..

Edgar said:

The Ravens like Murray I'm thinking.

If Alaka is what I hope he is, Id say that Murray pairs up with him as our Will pretty nicely., at least to start.
Hes more physical and violent than Queen by a pretty wide margin and he fits better as a blitzer, even off the edge, but especially off the ball.

There is stuff I like about him for sure but one problem I have has to do with what I consider a bigger need in round one namely, D line/Pass rush.

Id prefer we get Davidson.Epenesa in round one over either LB. I think that type will be dry by the time we are back on the clock but we might land a LB there more readily.

I talked myself into Willie Gay in the 2nd over Murray in the first because of this. He does a lot of what Murray can do to my mind...some of the same issues as well but...

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well Murray as a will is certainly better than having him as a Mike, by a long shot.

I’d trade up to select Lamb in a heartbeat. We’re talking about an OchoCinco/Boldin hybrid. Be perfect for Lamar and he’s an OU boy. What would it take to get in front of Vegas or get their pick?

JAAM said:

I’d trade up to select Lamb in a heartbeat. We’re talking about an OchoCinco/Boldin hybrid. Be perfect for Lamar and he’s an OU boy. What would it take to get in front of Vegas or get their pick?

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As much as I would love to tag team with you in the form of "SPEAK IT INTO EXISTENCE," I'm hesitant on giving up that much to get ahead.

JAAM said:

I’d trade up to select Lamb in a heartbeat. We’re talking about an OchoCinco/Boldin hybrid. Be perfect for Lamar and he’s an OU boy. What would it take to get in front of Vegas or get their pick?

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I'm a Lamb fan too, but I'm very conflicted on spending such a high pick on a WR because I'm not yet sure how big a need it is.
On the one hand, Lamar led the league in TDs throwing to these guys. That doesn't mean we should just remain stagnant, but it does point to the idea that what we already have is good enough, especially with Hollywood expected to take a big leap forward this year, and presumably Boykin will make progress as well.
On the other hand....aside from Henry bending us over, WR drops were probably the biggest factor in our playoff loss.

Simba said:

Am I the only one that doesn't hate Murray? I mean, he's not my favorite by any means, but I could think of a lot worse ways to spend a pick. Just seems like the consensus around here is hate and I don't really care to do the digging to figure out why.

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I like Murray as well, but admittedly it is more for what his athleticism promises. I'm uneasy about spending a 1st on him because I think it will take a year maybe even two to improve/fix his flaws. You want that 1st round pick to come in and contribute right away.
I love him as a 2nd round pick, but the odds of him being there that late are slim and none.

Dom McRaven said:

As much as I would love to tag team with you in the form of "SPEAK IT INTO EXISTENCE," I'm hesitant on giving up that much to get ahead.

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I totally get it.. I just love the kid as a prospect. Same with JJ, especially now that he's worked with Lamar. If we did trade up for one of those guys, we wouldn't have to worry about WR for another 10 years lol. But I get the cost factor and hesitance

flynismo said:

I'm a Lamb fan too, but I'm very conflicted on spending such a high pick on a WR because I'm not yet sure how big a need it is.
On the one hand, Lamar led the league in TDs throwing to these guys. That doesn't mean we should just remain stagnant, but it does point to the idea that what we already have is good enough, especially with Hollywood expected to take a big leap forward this year, and presumably Boykin will make progress as well.
On the other hand....aside from Henry bending us over, WR drops were probably the biggest factor in our playoff loss.

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I'm with you. It's not a glaring need, though it is a need for sure as teams will start to force Lamar to throw to the outside. Like I said above, trading up to select Lamb or JJ would have us set for the next 10 years at WR. I just want to surround Lamar with as much talent as humanly possible

add Robert Hunt to the list of Ravens "visits" according to WF

flynismo said:

I like Murray as well, but admittedly it is more for what his athleticism promises. I'm uneasy about spending a 1st on him because I think it will take a year maybe even two to improve/fix his flaws. You want that 1st round pick to come in and contribute right away.
I love him as a 2nd round pick, but the odds of him being there that late are slim and none.

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I can agree with that. I'm not sure I love him in the 1st, but I don't hate it either. I definitely recognize the flaws but also feel like Baltimore is a really good place and defense to cover up those flaws and let him do what he does best. The DL we've built so far should do wonders for keeping him clean and letting him eat. While I prefer a player that doesn't need to be covered up, I think his good could really shine here. Again, don't love him but don't hate him either.

JAAM said:

I totally get it.. I just love the kid as a prospect. Same with JJ, especially now that he's worked with Lamar. If we did trade up for one of those guys, we wouldn't have to worry about WR for another 10 years lol. But I get the cost factor and hesitance

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It's the only thing that stopping me from SIIE'ing (you know what this stands for lol). When we have needs like IOL, DL, and pass-rush, I just can't stomach giving up too much to not adequately address these significant needs.

Dom McRaven said:

It's the only thing that stopping me from SIIE'ing (you know what this stands for lol). When we have needs like IOL, DL, and pass-rush, I just can't stomach giving up too much to not adequately address these significant needs.

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Yea I can dig it.. trust me, I'm still hesitant as well. It's just enticing. Well are we still SIIE'ing Clowney/Yannick?

Just Remember, there are a ton of people who were luke warm to cold on guys like Marlon Humphrey and even Mosley on draft day. If Murray is the pick, are people going to root for him to be a bust just to be right? Probably. Honestly I Think the Ravens go a different route on draft day. Last year, Eric McCoy was mocked to the Ravens in almost every mock right before the draft. I feel like the last pick the “experts” got right was when Mayock mocked Lamar to us 2 years ago, albeit it was at 16 and not 32 lol.

Edgar said:

add Robert Hunt to the list of Ravens "visits" according to WF

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i like that a lot - seems that media guys seem to be consistently tabbing him our way too on day 2