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2020 NFL Draft Gameday Thread

What position will the Ravens select with their first pick in the draft?

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JoeyFlex5

JoeyFlex5

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JO_75 said:
Miami is so desperate to correct the wrong of winning games when they should have lost, it's insane. They don't want Tua at all, it seems if they can't get Cincy to accept a trade, then OT it is.

Seems the Jags want to ensure Jeff Okudah by trading with the Giants and beat Atlanta who I imagine is trying to trade up for Okudah as well.
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Smoke. Dolphins are taking tua 5, watch.

but man I’d say Atlanta is really boneheaded if they do that, trade up for way less and get cj Henderson or stay put for Trevon diggs, all 3 are day one starters with absurd potential and next to no risks
 
JoeyFlex5

JoeyFlex5

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Simba said:
This is a pure guess, but I wouldn't be shocked at all to learn that DeCosta was the one at the forefront of that move to try to get Khalil Mack or Marshon Lattimore over the last several years. I think he's definitely more on the aggressive side when the situation calls for it. Not reckless, but I think he's shown even in a short sample size that he's not going to just sit back and let things fall where they may. He's definitely more of a doer.
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Exactly. None of those moves are Ozzie, I have just never bought the idea that Eric is an Ozzie clone, I think he’s proven to be drastically different and has his own way of managing the team but learned some valuable tricks from Ozzie over the years
 
allblackraven

allblackraven

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JoeyFlex5 said:
I have a gut feeling too that we trade up, but I think it’s gonna be bigger than that, and I can’t shake the feeling that chaisson is our target. I think all the picks we have, and moving Hayden hurst for a 2, and trading for Campbell and signing Wolfe as clear win now moves, I feel like Eric has been slowly cooking up this move for a while, we’ve never seen the ravens with so many early picks and we’re so close to a super bowl right now, he’s got some shit up his sleeve.

everyone wants to talk about ravens typical philosophy and all but the situation is always fluid and this year is a good year to think our philosophy will be different. Everything points to a trade up, or some sort of splash move.
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Realistically, he should be a top 10 pick and that would be too expensive to get.
 
mc_red23

mc_red23

Pro Bowler
RavensMania said:
from a Mock on BSPN

8. Arizona Cardinals
Trade with Baltimore Ravens and New England Patriots

Cardinals get: 1-23, 3-98 (from NE), 2-55, 3-92, 4-129 (from BAL)
Ravens get: 2021 first-round pick (from NE)
Patriots get: 1-8

The Patriots have never made this sort of trade under Bill Belichick, but desperate times call for desperate measures. If they want to move forward with Jarrett Stidham and Brian Hoyer at quarterback, they won't need to make this sort of deal. If they want to go after Justin Herbert or Jordan Love, though, this is the sweet spot for New England, which doesn't have a second-round pick and probably doesn't want to commit the draft capital to get much higher. The Jaguars could be in line to draft a quarterback at No. 9, so if the Pats think a franchise signal-caller is on the board, they're going to have to move up to get him.

With just one player to show from the five drafts general managers Rod Graves and Steve Keim oversaw between 2012 and 2016, the Cardinals have been forced to rely on free agency to try to fill the holes on their roster. Nobody in the world will fault them for using a second-round pick to acquire DeAndre Hopkins as part of the David Johnson theft, but trading down here and acquiring extra selections makes sense for them in the big picture.

Lamar Jackson. That first-rounder could turn out to be juicy if the Patriots take a step backward in 2020. Baltimore once traded a future first-round pick to the Patriots to find its quarterback of the future and ended up drafting Kyle Boller, with Belichick using the first-rounder from the Ravens to draft Vince Wilfork. This is Ravens general manager Eric DeCosta's chance to get revenge.
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I'm clearly being dumb because I don't understand the basics of this trade at all.
 
RavensMania

RavensMania

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mc_red23 said:
I'm clearly being dumb because I don't understand the basics of this trade at all.
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future draft capital for us, plus we still have our 1st rounder. that is until ESPN projects it gets traded for a 1st rounder from the Bears (2021)
 
rmcjacket23

rmcjacket23

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mc_red23 said:
I'm clearly being dumb because I don't understand the basics of this trade at all.
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Basically the Ravens would give up a 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounder to get the Patriots 1st rounder.

So the Ravens would then have:

1st round: 23, 28
2nd round: 60
3rd round: 106
4th round: 143
5th round: 170
7th round: 225

I personally think this deal would never happen, but I certainly think the Ravens would consider it.
 
rossihunter2

rossihunter2

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RavensMania said:
tbh, I don't think any qb in this draft class is a slam dunk. Joe Burrow comes from a Brady offense that was loaded in talent on both sides of the ball AND he has only one year of starting experience. I want the Bengals to draft Burrow instead of trading back and getting a bunch of top picks.
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he's the highest graded QB i've ever had on my board - maybe doesnt have the same ceiling as other guys have had but i think he's probably the safest prospect ive ever seen at QB - he's everything that i thought rosen was (but wasnt)
 
rossihunter2

rossihunter2

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JoeyFlex5 said:
Lack of production came from being injured in previous years, no lingering signs of injury though, and chaisson is possibly the most explosive defender in a class with Isaiah Simmons and chase young, and he is role-versatile, he’s a real OLB and not just an edge rusher, not just a off ball LB, but a legitimate 3 down OLB tailor made for an attacking defense.

I think people are over analyzing way too much with chaisson tbh, when you don’t see super flashy sack numbers you nit pick big time, But I think he’s way better than the numbers and a dream fit in Baltimore
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he's a potential superstar
 
rossihunter2

rossihunter2

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JoeyFlex5 said:
Understandable, the main reason I’d support that is because it should take substantially less capital to make that move, epenesa likely doesn’t fall past Seattle which mean we just gotta move up a few spots. But if you’re referring to epenesa as a better prospect for us, ehhh I just can’t get on board.

idk I guess I’m higher on chaisson than most here, few months ago chaisson was super hyped on these boards and all of a sudden the hype disappeared, seems like we talked ourselves out of liking him because he was out of reach. Well... we traded hurst for a 2 between now and then, so he’s not out of reach anymore lol
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im still pretty high on chaisson - he's 13th on the board for me
 
rossihunter2

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Simba said:
This is a pure guess, but I wouldn't be shocked at all to learn that DeCosta was the one at the forefront of that move to try to get Khalil Mack or Marshon Lattimore over the last several years. I think he's definitely more on the aggressive side when the situation calls for it. Not reckless, but I think he's shown even in a short sample size that he's not going to just sit back and let things fall where they may. He's definitely more of a doer.
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i think he's aggressive when he knows there's a talent he considers elite (which is what the analytics say about round 1 trade ups - you have to be sure they're an elite talent to make it worthwhile) - otherwise the analytics suggest accruing value through winning trades (not always trading back but by combining good value trading back and good value trading up at other picks)

we know he wanted to go up and get cody ford - that would have been a major trade to pull off given our lack of a 2nd round pick

but he's also not going to get fleeced going up - if the value isnt there he's not going to give up extra capital to do it
 
rossihunter2

rossihunter2

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JoeyFlex5 said:
Exactly. None of those moves are Ozzie, I have just never bought the idea that Eric is an Ozzie clone, I think he’s proven to be drastically different and has his own way of managing the team but learned some valuable tricks from Ozzie over the years
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he's also been basically running the draft the last few years - that's always been his passion on the personnel side - it's always been the draft...

2018 felt like a mesh of Ozzie and EDC in a symbiotic relationship in their hand-over draft

Hurst felt like an Ozzie pick
Lamar felt like an EDC pick

lots of the picks felt like ozzie picks in that draft but zach sieler, greg senat, jordan lasley, kenny young, deshon elliott all felt like EDC influenced picks

and just in general the trading and compiling despite giving up picks to get lamar felt like EDC putting his stamp on the draft despite it being ozzie's final draft
 
rossihunter2

rossihunter2

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rmcjacket23 said:
Basically the Ravens would give up a 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounder to get the Patriots 1st rounder.

So the Ravens would then have:

1st round: 23, 28
2nd round: 60
3rd round: 106
4th round: 143
5th round: 170
7th round: 225

I personally think this deal would never happen, but I certainly think the Ravens would consider it.
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would be to get the patriots 2021 1st rounder not even this year's 1st rounder
 
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Justdewinit20

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JoeyFlex5 said:
Smoke. Dolphins are taking tua 5, watch.

but man I’d say Atlanta is really boneheaded if they do that, trade up for way less and get cj Henderson or stay put for Trevon diggs, all 3 are day one starters with absurd potential and next to no risks
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There’s a massive gap between Okudah and the rest of the corners. I don’t blame them for trying to trade up.
 
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