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rossihunter2

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It is crazy how they continue to say player safety is at the forefront of the decision but we know damn well that isn't the case. No organization that cares about "safety" is about to put 90 people on a plane, especially after seeing how some other teams had positive tests day after day earlier this year. It's a money decision.

at least they could be honest about it rather than putting out clearly false statements

if there's any new positives tomorrow as well it'll put them to the test
 

RavensFan419

Pro Bowler
The one nice thing about all this is my little optimist in me that thinks we can win this game is gone and I expect to lose so it can't ruin my week but if we win I'll be hyped 6-5 with our remaining schedule should put us at 11-5 possibly 10-6 still probably making the playoffs so this rough stretch is whatever to me honestly a win on Thursday just tells me we will make the playoffs imo
 

BoredMarine13

Ravens Ring of Honor
It is crazy how they continue to say player safety is at the forefront of the decision but we know damn well that isn't the case. No organization that cares about "safety" is about to put 90 people on a plane, especially after seeing how some other teams had positive tests day after day earlier this year. It's a money decision.

Player safety? Nah most of the individuals on that plane are well with within the age group where COVID symptoms are at worst a very bad flu. As far as safety goes , they will be fine.

I do think it’s quite hypocritical for the league to fine Mike Tomlin for talking without a mask during the game , but will allow the Ravens to board a plane and travel shortly after discovering 10+ positives in the organization. Serious about stopping the spread .... unless it’s a big money prime time game


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rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
Player safety? Nah most of the individuals on that plane are well with within the age group where COVID symptoms are at worst a very bad flu. As far as safety goes , they will be fine.

I do think it’s quite hypocritical for the league to fine Mike Tomlin for talking without a mask during the game , but will allow the Ravens to board a plane and travel shortly after discovering 10+ positives in the organization. Serious about stopping the spread .... unless it’s a big money prime time game


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i mean not to get ridiculously into the weeds but you're right that it's statistically likely to impact them differently to other subsets of the population but 2 things here I think need to be said:

1) we're still in a pandemic - it spreads quickly and efficiently through the population and these players all have loved ones and family members who may be far more vulnerable as will some of the coaches and support staff who are also put at risk

2) there are still studies being done to determine more accurately what the long-term impacts of covid are but the long-term impact of "long covid" can be pretty severe and they're finding that even healthy people who were initially asymptomatic have had covid-related heart (and other organ) problems - the idea that young healthy people are somehow unaffected by this virus is naive and ignorant it is far worse than the flu for the majority of those who manifest any symptoms and the fallout of post-viral fatigues and syndromes from Covid are going to be a massive burden on healthcare systems for decades
 

ravenslord

Ravens Ring of Honor
Wow. I mean yeah, our team is tanking, and will likely lose their 4th of 5 games this week, but sheeeze - chill out. You seem like you’re about to explode. So what if the Steelers go undefeated and win their 7th Lombardi? We always have next year.... right?
PLEASE BAN THIS STEELERS TROLL WHO JUST SIGNED UP TODAY !!!
 

redrum52

Hall of Famer
yes it would lol - if the game's on they've got to play it especially in steelers week - the disadvantages dont matter you cant back down (as long as the game's on)

Fuck that coward shit.


Regardless of how bad the team is about to get its cheeks clapped
 

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
yes it would lol - if the game's on they've got to play it especially in steelers week - the disadvantages dont matter you cant back down (as long as the game's on)

Look that's how I feel too. Now all I'm saying is we've seen some NBA teams protest games for BLM. It's just a weird time in the world. Everyone is experiencing unprecedented stuff. It just hit me like they could in theory protest if they taught there was a possibility of really spreading the virus. Got me thinking further like would the NFL discipline them for that? It would look bad on their part. Idk I'm rambling on a random thought. Probably not worth thinking about it if it doesn't happen.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
yeah the only thing worse than losing would be having the stain of "running away" attached to this team and i promise you that wouldnt go away for a lot longer than potentially being swept
Agreed. Take the L, show heart, show some fight and some pride, get right over your 7 day break, beat the Cowboys, get a little more right, go out swinging the rest of the year, hopefully we get some guys back here and there and we get healthy, hell maybe we get hot and win a wild card game or something, won’t hold my breath but that would go down as a positive to build on next year when we hopefully have more of a normal season
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
i mean not to get ridiculously into the weeds but you're right that it's statistically likely to impact them differently to other subsets of the population but 2 things here I think need to be said:

1) we're still in a pandemic - it spreads quickly and efficiently through the population and these players all have loved ones and family members who may be far more vulnerable as will some of the coaches and support staff who are also put at risk

2) there are still studies being done to determine more accurately what the long-term impacts of covid are but the long-term impact of "long covid" can be pretty severe and they're finding that even healthy people who were initially asymptomatic have had covid-related heart (and other organ) problems - the idea that young healthy people are somehow unaffected by this virus is naive and ignorant it is far worse than the flu for the majority of those who manifest any symptoms and the fallout of post-viral fatigues and syndromes from Covid are going to be a massive burden on healthcare systems for decades
On #1, its sort of a catch-22. If we do have a widespread outbreak in the lockerroom, and we don't play the game, where do the players and coaches go? Answer... home, to spread it to their families.

Now I'm not suggesting flying to Pittsburgh and giving it to the Steelers is an option either, because its not.

My point is the NFL has a contact tracing and quarantine process that, if followed, works. I don't think anybody can dispute that at this point. They do thousands of tests on a weekly basis, and their positive test rate is so ridiculously compared to the general population, who does less traveling and is generally less surrounded by larger groups of people, that in a lot of ways, Pro Sports has become a better model for how to handle a pandemic than society has. Some of that is driven by financial/technology investments that the average person doesn't have access to, but the reality is that many people, myself included, never thought they had a prayer of finishing the first month of the season, let alone getting halfway through it. And they've been killing it for months now.

I said from the beginning that even a handful of players or organizational members getting COVID in a weeks timeframe should not be enough for them to cancel a game. Move it? Possibly, but that's circumstantial. It was easier to move games in week 3, because they could shift by weeks. Moving this game beyond Week 12 means a Week 18 game, and the league knows that.

As for health and safety, while I agree its hypocritical, the health and safety of the leagues players, coaches, staff, etc. is what they're referencing. I would not, and couldn't justify, putting the NFL in charge of the health and safety of families, friends, etc. who interact with them. That's wildly outside of their scope.

If I'm a family member of a Ravens player or coach today, my quarantine from said player or coach has already begun, with or without a positive test. That's the price of playing football professionally for lots of money in 2020. Frankly, if I had at risk people living in the household, said player or coach would have very limited or non existent physical interaction with my family for the entire 4-5 month duration of the season. Seems harsh, but again, if safety truly matters to the general population as well (which is debatable), and you're committed to doing Pro Football as it currently is, I think that's the cost of doing so.
 

cdp

Ravens Ring of Honor
Is Mekari out? Otherwise I'd like to see our OL go: Brown - Bozeman - Colon-Castillo - Powers - Mekari.
 

gtalk12

Ravens Ring of Honor
Can the Ravens return to form?


Will they beat the Steelers?


Will Lamar let loose?



NEXT TIME ON THE NEXT DRAGONBALL Z
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator


so they basically had no choice...
will still be interesting to see who else goes on the Covid-list given we know there are at least 2 more positive tests that havent been announced and Mekari and Skura both close contacts not positive tests

also this fun nugget:


which only serves to remind me that we managed to lose that Steelers game despite coming off a bye
 
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