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cdp

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Where are Mallett, Buck Allen and Kamar Aiken? I mean we beat the steelers in 2015 with them.
 

JoeyFlex5

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I’ll take tyler Huntley over rg3 tbh
I’ll Double down on this. With rg3 we simply can’t run our offense because bob isn’t a threat to run, and as a passer there’s literally nothing beyond extremely low end game manager, if that.

with Huntley, you at least have a gimmick to lean on for a day, hope for a spark, Huntley was a special runner in college, that’s something to lean on in hopes of a fluke day from someone with no film to study
 

rossihunter2

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I’ll Double down on this. With rg3 we simply can’t run our offense because bob isn’t a threat to run, and as a passer there’s literally nothing beyond extremely low end game manager, if that.

with Huntley, you at least have a gimmick to lean on for a day, hope for a spark, Huntley was a special runner in college, that’s something to lean on in hopes of a fluke day from someone with no film to study

with Huntley's release that would be a recipe for disaster - he's not a dynamic enough runner for that to be all he offers and his wind-up is long enough that fitzpatrick will read him all day

if trace managed to get cleared id much prefer to see him in there (but no guarantee)

i like huntley as a developmental prospect but unless he's made significant progress with his release since the offseason there's no way i want to see him play snaps

i get what you're saying about RGIII which is why I wouldn't mind Trace (who has similar athleticism but a tighter motion and a year more experience than Huntley) if he could be cleared

but lets be honest it's all moot because it's obvious RGIII is going to be the starter lol
 

Sandtown

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I’ll Double down on this. With rg3 we simply can’t run our offense because bob isn’t a threat to run, and as a passer there’s literally nothing beyond extremely low end game manager, if that.

with Huntley, you at least have a gimmick to lean on for a day, hope for a spark, Huntley was a special runner in college, that’s something to lean on in hopes of a fluke day from someone with no film to study

I think RGIII has some run ability still but honestly Greg Roman can simply just shift his offense to how it was with Alex Smith.
 

Militant X 1

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One of the knocks against Lamar has been that he can't win the so-called "big" games. After 3 straight losses, and although there are 5 games left in the season; with the Ravens sitting at 6-5 wouldn't tonight's game vs. the Cowboys be considered as a "big" game for him? I believe so cause if the Ravens lose tonight, I don't think that they'll be able to recover (psychologically) from a 4 game losing streak going down the stretch. To me, Lamar has to show up "big" tonight! I want to see the Lamar we saw last season (i.e. confident, energetic, exciting, electrifying and inspirational to his whole team). I need to see the DAWGS tonight!
 
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cdp

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To @Cumberbundy do you really want break the bank for ~4000 total yards, 29 total TDs, 16 turnovers a season?
However we had to deal with bad luck, incompetent WRs, bad OL, Ingram not being 100% again and Roman's questionable playcalling.
I believe we'll see a different Lamar next season
 

rmcjacket23

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One of the knocks against Lamar has been that he can't win the so-called "big" games. After 3 straight losses, and although there are 5 games left in the season; with the Ravens sitting at 6-4 wouldn't tonight's game vs. the Cowboys be considered as a "big" game for him? I believe so cause if the Ravens lose tonight, I don't think that they'll be able to recover (psychologically) from a 4 game losing streak going down the stretch. To me, Lamar has to show up "big" tonight! I want to see the Lamar we saw last season (i.e. confident, energetic, exciting, electrifying and inspirational to his whole team). I need to see the DAWGS tonight!
I mean, sort of.

In some ways, it is. You really can't afford to be 6-6 with 4 games to go and expect to make the playoffs, especially with the large number of teams you're competing with.

That being said, there's a couple things:
1. If you were to assume that the Ravens should finish 10-6, and that it will be enough to make the playoffs, then tonight, by definition, isn't a must win game. Its among the easier games remaining on the schedule, so it should be a win, but if not, the Ravens would almost certainly still make the playoffs by winning the last four. And given their schedule, that's not that unrealistic either.
2. You've got a somewhat built in "excuse". 6 days of prep, and a litany of players coming off COVID, all of most of which have had essentially zero practice time in almost two weeks. Lamar will also still be missing his two most "reliable" pass catchers, especially in the middle of the field.

I wouldn't call the season over if we lose tonight, but we will have zero room for error going forward if we do. If we're not going to beat the good teams, which we haven't done this year basically, we can't afford to lose to the bad one's and still make the playoffs.
 

Militant X 1

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I mean, sort of.

In some ways, it is. You really can't afford to be 6-6 with 4 games to go and expect to make the playoffs, especially with the large number of teams you're competing with.

That being said, there's a couple things:
1. If you were to assume that the Ravens should finish 10-6, and that it will be enough to make the playoffs, then tonight, by definition, isn't a must win game. Its among the easier games remaining on the schedule, so it should be a win, but if not, the Ravens would almost certainly still make the playoffs by winning the last four. And given their schedule, that's not that unrealistic either.
2. You've got a somewhat built in "excuse". 6 days of prep, and a litany of players coming off COVID, all of most of which have had essentially zero practice time in almost two weeks. Lamar will also still be missing his two most "reliable" pass catchers, especially in the middle of the field.

I wouldn't call the season over if we lose tonight, but we will have zero room for error going forward if we do. If we're not going to beat the good teams, which we haven't done this year basically, we can't afford to lose to the bad one's and still make the playoffs.

I see the points you are making and understand all of them. I'm not calling the season over if the Ravens lost tonight either, however, I do feel that it would be a psychological blow to the team losing 4 games in a row. That's tough to overcome mentally and then on top of that next week they have to go into Cleveland to face a Browns team that has been improving since OBJ went down.

I'm thinking that these next 2 games vs the Cowboys and Browns will determine whether or not the Ravens will have the potential to be playoff-bound with some extra stumbling from the Raiders, Dolphins and the Colts in the process. You?
 

rmcjacket23

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I see the points you are making and understand all of them. I'm not calling the season over if the Ravens lost tonight either, however, I do feel that it would be a psychological blow to the team losing 4 games in a row. That's tough to overcome mentally and then on top of that next week they have to go into Cleveland to face a Browns team that has been improving since OBJ went down.

I'm thinking that these next 2 games vs the Cowboys and Browns will determine whether or not the Ravens will have the potential to be playoff-bound with some extra stumbling from the Raiders, Dolphins and the Colts in the process. You?
I think if they lose both, obviously, its over. And I wouldn't like our chances of rebounding against Cleveland with a loss tonight.

I would have thought that losing to the Titans and Patriots, especially in the way that they did, would be sufficient enough of a psychological blow that they'll need to overcome that. Pittsburgh was a write off due to COVID. Will see what happens tonight. As I said, there's sort of a "built in excuse", given the short weeks, lack of practice time, recovery from the virus, etc. I would be shocked to see us come out all cylinders firing, especially on offense. And there's really not a team in this league (even the Jets) where you can just sleep walk through the game.

In reality, the Cleveland game is probably the barometer. A loss, or especially, a loss in the vein of NE or Tennessee, where we get physically dominated, would I think crush us mentally. Even if you win the rest of the games, it'll be tough to overcome the thought that you get beat, and beat physically, by pretty much every good team you played this year.
 

ravenslord

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I honestly don't think you can count this season against Lamar due to Covid , and massive number of injuries we have had this year.

But if we are healthy next season and his play is like this year I cannot envision the Ravens FO signing him to a big contract.

I should add that I really like Lamar and hes a really good kid. I pray that this works out for him and the Ravens.
 
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Davesta

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Lamar got away from the fundamentals and proper throwing mechanics. The zero off-season really hurt him. He’s not a natural thrower and needs all those reps to get that side arm throwing tendencies out of him.

Hopefully next off-season, he can pay another visit to Tom House and get back to the grind.
 
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