AB is prolly my fav wr ever. With that being said, idk if he would be ok with playing every snap yet only getting 50 recs of the year.. he likely to get frustrated with lamar and coaching
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The 2021 Offseason Thread
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QuothTheRaven
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Do people really want Corey Davis? I'd be scared as hell that he'd go right back to being the guy from his first 3 years once he's not opposite AJ Brown. Especially in an offense like ours. Allen Robinson is the (somewhat realistic) dream for me.
JAAM
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I only want Davis as a 2a/b. Definitely not a 1. Higgins or Samuel are much more realistic across from Allen though
JAAM
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Hollywood speaking out again against Roman I’m assuming
Hollywood speaking out again against Roman I’m assuming
Us developing wrs isnt the problem imo, its our drafting choice. I feel we are better off drafting nfl ready wrs outta college or wrs who already have those nfl traits. Id rather us go strictly for good rte runners who can catch.
You look at the best wrs in nfl, all those guys run exceptional rtes and its been that way for them even before nfl. Most of them put in the work during spare time. Regardless of who their coaches are ,those guys will be good. Now, they may not be used correctly due to coaching or bad qb play but regardless of it you know those guys have skill.
Hollywood has game, he may never reach his full potential here because of qb play and coaching but the teams and coaches who actually got an eye for wr talent will use him correctly.
You look at the best wrs in nfl, all those guys run exceptional rtes and its been that way for them even before nfl. Most of them put in the work during spare time. Regardless of who their coaches are ,those guys will be good. Now, they may not be used correctly due to coaching or bad qb play but regardless of it you know those guys have skill.
Hollywood has game, he may never reach his full potential here because of qb play and coaching but the teams and coaches who actually got an eye for wr talent will use him correctly.
if you listen to what and how he said it he really wasnt calling anyone out - moreso him taking responsibility on behalf of the offence and the passing attack for its lacklustre performance - he went on to talk about how he (and others) would be dedicated this offseason to getting better and trying to fix it
he mostly blamed the poor performance on player execution
so while roman may be at fault for some of the passing game problems, hollywood was not calling him out
100% agree with this - route running translates and prospects with poor route running (or who dont have to worry about various nuances etc.) take so much longer to develop
it's great to draft guys with 4.3 speed but in the NFL a ton of corners can run too and if they can press you or get hands on you're not really going to threaten them in man unless you can set them up with route running - feel like duvernay exemplifies that problem - he has lots of plus traits but it was naive to expect him to be a proper wide receiver this year - he's at this point a weapon but you have to manufacture touches for him if you want him to contribute
this offence doesnt need complementary pieces like that right now - we need actual receivers who can win vs man and understand how to run their routes to manipulate the zone
and i personally have always preferred guys who can run routes anyways - i enjoy the craft of it and the battle it creates - WRs have so many tools at their disposal to create separation
JoeyFlex5
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Yeah I’m not feeling Corey Davis, and I was REALLY high on him pre draft
JoeyFlex5
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Agreed. Hollywood has been almost as good as we could’ve ever expected in this offense upon drafting him, but he’s not “the” guy and likely never will be due to his size and nature.
I’m really liking Bateman, Marshall, st brown, and nico Collins for us.
there’s also a guy Jaelen Dardon who’s like Hollywood’s size but he’s a tough sob and he’s not as fast but wayyy twitchier, like a Lamar running style, he’s just a guy I’d love to see here breaking ankles
agree and I was high on him also.
me too - loved his route running
havent got to collins or st brown yet
really like bateman a lot
not a massive fan of marshall so far
good luck on Sunday.
JAAM
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Go Packers!!!!
Man i love bateman.. havent really looked deep into him yet but from what i saw last season he was look really good. Didnt see much of him this season but is he projected to go in 1st rnd?
JAAM
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@rossihunter2 i know you’re a big DeShon guy, so how well do you think he played this season? Do you think he played well enough to remain our starter, or should we look elsewhere?
I think he's played well enough to be our starter but not amazing enough that he couldn't be usurped by a high quality addition
that being said he might have had his best game yet against the bills from what ive seen - one of my biggest criticisms of him especially as a deep cover guy is that he's hesitant to trigger and it often makes him seem late or slow but when he backs his reads he's got tons of range
there was one spectacular play he made in coverage early against the bills where he started at the LoS between the Edge and Slot on the far side and at the snap absolutely screams downfield to bracket diggs over the top on a go route lined up outside with Marcus Peters on the near side
so he came from the LoS and from the opposite side of the field to get over the top to completely nullify that play
he's got that kind of upside
and we all know what he can do in the running game with the way he comes downhill like a rocket
and i love the way he holds himself and how hyped and swaggery he gets
I think we need to add another safety anyway so that we can get into more 3 safety dime packages again - even if we did add a starting level safety, deshon's going to be a big part of this defence in 2021 - the real question for me is what we do about him after 2021 given he'll be a free agent after this upcoming season
Grim
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I don’t know, I mean who would replace him? We would need to either sign someone or draft a guy. I don’t think Ellis is capable.
If we don’t get another OC I don’t know why we would need Jones, Brown & Robinson. What would they do? We’re going to run a TE & Ricard.
He doesn’t play the same position. One is a NT and the other is different.
JoeyFlex5
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i comped him to TO for fucks sake lmao