cdp
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Releasing Koch saves 0.8M against the cap and they have Townsend on a futures contract. I don't rule out anything esp. in this upcoming offseason.
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BoredMarine13
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While I’m sure your right and he stays until retirement I can’t help but wonder if he had a “meh“ year. Punter stats like average are basically worthless for comparison so it’s hard to tell. Just seems like he had more mis hits than usual. 1.5 million towards a receiver or pass rusher maybe money better spent.
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But that’s not a decision they’re making now. Sure, they could move on from Koch, but it’s not about money UNTIL you have someone you feel can competently replace him. I’m sure they’ll bring in a young guy to compete this year, and if he does better in camp, you go cheaper. But you aren’t cutting Koch for money reasons right now. You’re literally talking about $800K post June 1. You can find ways to clear $800K on the cap almost anywhere if you really need it that much. Cox was not a money decision and Koch would not be either if it got to that point.
JAAM
Hall of Famer
Some random Bills fan made a comment on how Ravens fans think Lamar will get better as a passer with a stud #1, but the problem is Roman and his lack of creativity in the passing game. Seems like everyone but Harbaugh knows. This is getting pretty frustrating. Not sure anyone would want to come here with Roman calling plays, and yes Harbs, we might need to beg if you want your young QB to develop
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
I still stand by the notion that Roman has to absolutely adapt to the point that he finds ways to run out of passing formations and then let someone else call and design a passing game and let him handle the run duties.
Roman has helped build the greatest rushing attack of all time, you see this thing through, if it’s clear that no developments can be made, that’s when you move on, and when you do that, you’re putting it ALL on Lamar
Dom McRaven
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You've been saying this for awhile now. I'm surprised you didn't add #SIIE at the end of each post lol.
SepticeyePoe
Hall of Famer
That's unfortunate about Cox. Back in 2014 I got a bunch of Ravens signatures at their stadium practice, and he was the last one who was still with the Ravens.
CanadianRavensFan
Practice Squad
While a WR1 might not solve all of Roman's issues it will certainly mask some of them. Before this season Brian Daboll's passing offenses ranked between 23rd and 31st in the league and then the Bills acquired Diggs and they shot up to 3rd. Now I don't expect to see something so drastic for Roman but I think a WR1 could atleast put us in the top 10 passing offenses next season.
also in a contract year too so don't even have to release him just not re-sign him
JAAM
Hall of Famer
Exactly this. Just one or two WRs that can actually get open and catch the ball. Stef and Beasley were absolute monsters for Allen. Boykin, Snead and Dez should all be shown the door
i just think that given that a Lamar extension looks to basically be a given at this point - why not let him see this through...
1 good receiver makes life so much easier for another good receiver - we have Hollywood who's a separation beast already in year 2 - how much easier is his life going to be if we have someone else to draw coverage - or alternatively how much easier is it going to be for a new guy coming in with Hollywood drawing coverage
John Brown and Cole Beasley (and even Gabriel Davis) are good receivers but their lives were made so much easier by Diggs (and each other) being around
I'm so glad Hollywood overcame that rough stretch right after the "soulja" dilemma. He was always open early in the season but there was no time to get the ball there. And then he started dropping the ball literally and figuratively. Once the offense kind of found a little bit of a flow, Hollywood really started to show his value. He's the only guy in that WR group that can work himself open. Get one more guy like that and I'd be very curious to see how the passing game evolves. Even allows us to start using Duvernay a bit more. That's much easier said than done, though.
it opens up so much with even just 1 more guy - Hollywood was absolutely dusting premier corners at times this year - having someone else as you say suddenly opens up Duvernay for those manufactured touches and allows us to be a more dynamic running team out of spread concepts which will ultimately help our run/pass balance (not that we should completely move away from our tight heavy in-line formations with boyle and ricard etc.
but it does also suggest as Harbs said last week that OL is a major position for upgrade this offseason - Lamar is just so much better (like most QBs in the league) when he has a good OL in front of him
We're trying out damndest to emulate what KC is doing on offense from a personnel perspective, although we definitely have the discount version as of now.
Brown = Hill
Andrews = Kelce
Duvernay = Hardman
It's that #2 WR spot that's missing. They don't have great options there but Watkins and Robinson are both fully capable of winning 1 on 1 matchups. None of our guys have been able to do that with any sort of consistency.
it was amazing looking at some of the plays last night and seeing just how similar they are to some of the things we run here - there's just an extra tick of creativity and play sense too
we've got a discount version of the scheme too lol (albeit with a very different emphasis in terms of pass vs run)
JoeyFlex5
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Whatever the fuck Andy Reid does where he draws the defenders, the blockers, the refs, the cameras, fucking everything, he draws THE ENTIRE FUCKING COUNTRY to one side of the formation and then there’s a player standing one yard in front mahomes with about 10 yards of open field in every direction and neither mahomes nor the target had to do a fucking thing to get open... that’s what I want. It’s just ball snap> clusterfuck of everyone scrambling to one side> oh shit Kelce just stood still and caught a shovel pass with an air distance of 1ft and now he’s in the endzone. Also there’s the classic snap> holy fuck there’s a lot of pressure> oh shit the rb has the ball full speed without a single defender within 15 yards.
seriously, what the hell is Andy Reid doing? How does he make it work?
cdp
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He has 1 guy who does nothing else but watching college tape and stealing plays from there. Whereas the rest of the league copies plays from within the league. He has found a new resource which also helps rookies and 2nd year players with their transition.
This is basically what we did 2 years ago when Roman re-designed the offense, but Reid does it constantly.
and it's the way he's able to sneak the most dangerous weapons in football into massive wide open spaces - like how does he consistently get defenders on the field to lose sight of their 2 best receivers
and now that he has the best qb in the league and also myriad weapons it's like how do you stop him