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The 2021 Offseason Thread

Simba

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Moderator
Could we get some mock off-season action?

I think that's kind of hard to do right now because there are still a ton of cuts coming across the league in the next 3-4 weeks. Gonna be guys available that probably wouldn't in any other year.

From a broad perspective... I think we'll add vets at WR, iOL, and OLB. Maybe not star level guys, but solid starters and probably guys that we haven't talked about yet because they are still on their respective teams. Retain Wolfe, Bowser, and McPhee from the FAs. Hit the draft hard at OLB and OL. Watch out for a S as a sneaky early pick.
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
I think that's kind of hard to do right now because there are still a ton of cuts coming across the league in the next 3-4 weeks. Gonna be guys available that probably wouldn't in any other year.

From a broad perspective... I think we'll add vets at WR, iOL, and OLB. Maybe not star level guys, but solid starters and probably guys that we haven't talked about yet because they are still on their respective teams. Retain Wolfe, Bowser, and McPhee from the FAs. Hit the draft hard at OLB and OL. Watch out for a S as a sneaky early pick.

we also don't know officially what the comp picks look like and more importantly don't actually have the salary cap number for this year yet
 

Simba

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Moderator
we also don't know officially what the comp picks look like and more importantly don't actually have the salary cap number for this year yet

Sounds like we might not know the cap until a week before FA, which could lead to a ton of guys getting cut right before the start. Rumor is that they're waiting for the TV deals to be signed because it could help increase the cap this year over the $181M projected.
 

RaineV1

Ravens Ring of Honor
Joe Thuney is the free agent I want the most. He would really fix up our interior line, and give a rookie rt a vet next to him to help out.

For WR, Golladay would be the dream come true, but good luck winning a bidding war for him. Corey Davis would be a good target. Reliable and won't break the bank.
 

JAAM

Hall of Famer
Give it my best.

First off cuss out Earl Thomas for costing us 10 mil this year. Thanks Earl. You p.o.s

Right now we have 18,273,773mil right now according to OTC and in the back of our minds we have to remember even bigger contracts come up next year with Lamar and Andrews and we have to have a good sense of how much the cap will raise.

First off I would trade Zeus Jr and lets just say to the Jags for their 2nd and I would push hard for a 2022 1st. I would settle for a 2nd in 2022 and their 4th in 2021 if I couldn't get the 1st in 2022 and I'm not flipping a 5th for a 4th or none of that shit. We pick up draft capital but this opens up a massive hole at RT but I don't want somebody that's unhappy playing there. This gives us another 3.384 mil and gives us a grand total of 21,667,773 mil.

Next there are 3 players considered "cuttable". Marcus Peters(9.4 mil in savings), Campbell (6 mil) and big bear in the middle (7.5 mil). Peters I would talk some sort of extension since his cap hit is actually lower in 2022 than 2021 (EDC stroke of genius) hopefully freeing up close to 3 mil. Campbell is a a tough one but I'd see if he 'd take a paycut from 10 mil base salary down to 7 freeing up another 3 mil. Big Bear I'd probally leave alone,let it expire and just work 1 or 2 yr deals with him until he retires. Just love an all time Raven plus I'm scared he'd eat me if I tried to take any of his lunch money. So with these moves we'd have 27-28 mil on our hands and we'd probally have to subtract 7 mil lets say for rookie contracts leaving 20-21 mil.

Next sign our own Derek Wolfe and Jihad Ward. Wolfe just cuz he's an ace on this defense and I just see so much in Ward I'm resigning both on 3 yr deals. McPhee on a 1 yr deal is also on the radar. The OLB situation? Here's music to your ears bro. Buh bye Judon. Thank you very much for your service but 17 mil............. don't let the door hit you where mother nature split you. I'm signing either Ngakwoue or Bowser. Probally not both. Ngakwoue would be my primary cuz he's straight up passrusher and I think an offseason in Wink's system is gonna make us happy. 3 yr 45-48 mil but lets just say no more than 16 mil avg and we may have to backload a little and pray the cap seriously jumps but we definitely want some sort of contract where he's cuttable after 2 yrs. Bowser is also valuable at the SAM but I'm thinking at minimum he's a 13 mil player and I would try if I couldn't keep Ngakwoue. No way I'm letting all 3 walk. At WR boy am I interested in Curtis Samuel. What this offense needs is not true WR's but what I like to call "weapons" and he fits the bill. Slants,screens,jet reverses. All kinds of shit you can use him for. Snead I'm not resigning and for veterans I'm riding again with the three of Boykin,Dev and Proche and hoping somebody steps up. OLine? We have a surplus of guards I'm riding with and I hate signing UFA's costing comp picks and with the talent I'm seeing in the draft would love to go at least 2 picks on oline in the first 2 days. As of now with my scenario we got 4 picks. For oline I would go more for cheap free agent at RT after the comp deadline passes but also as I said the draft where C and OT is what I'm looking at.

Not going to get into the draft except I'm definitely wanting oline since it seems to be a strength but when it comes to a blueprint for the offseason I think with the cap going down in general we have to be realistic in who and what we can get and how you want to backload. Backloading can fuck you in the end and we have Lamar and Andrews coming up. So important!!!

So if we have lets say 20-21 mil after rookie contracts can we fit Wolfe,Samuel,Ward,McPhee and Yannick on this team. I hope so. #SIIE
We’re off to a good start!!
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
Joe Thuney is the free agent I want the most. He would really fix up our interior line, and give a rookie rt a vet next to him to help out.

For WR, Golladay would be the dream come true, but good luck winning a bidding war for him. Corey Davis would be a good target. Reliable and won't break the bank.
I havent watched much of golladay, only remember his spec catches... out of him and corey davis, which one do you think can get open more consistently?
 

RaineV1

Ravens Ring of Honor
I havent watched much of golladay, only remember his spec catches... out of him and corey davis, which one do you think can get open more consistently?
Golladay, and it's no contest. Much better route runner, and seems better at finding soft spots in the defense.
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
Golladay, and it's no contest. Much better route runner, and seems better at finding soft spots in the defense.
Id love to have him but i think its better if we go after schreff or thuney first.. golladay is basically lions only wr so i think they will either sign or tag him
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
Question, do we have enough cap to sign either thuney or schreff, resgin either yannick or judon and sign either watkins or green?
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
Oh yeah I forgot about that. Truthfully I don't see us landing Watt if his motive is money and Von may be out of our range. I do think we could end up surprisingly signing Scherrff from Washington or Thuney from the Patriots to improve the line but that still leaves a hole at RT if we trade Orlando.
As much as I like Scherff his injury issues are concerning.
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
we also don't know officially what the comp picks look like and more importantly don't actually have the salary cap number for this year yet
That wouldn't matter. Caps don't freeze for a while in the Forum Mock and the comp picks tend to be awarded between late February to March. We have started the Forum Mock and not known the comp picks until we have started the 3rd round. They would just get added in.
 

Simba

Staff Member
Moderator
Good news, with the potential to go higher still. Would be great if they could get up to the $185-190M range. Think the NFLPA is finally realizing how many vet jobs are at stake and are working to try to save them.

 

gtalk12

Ravens Ring of Honor
Davis worries me. We can't afford to carry more dead weight if his one season of production turns out to be a fluke.

What was the story with him this year? He seemed to be more productive this year yet at the same time it appeared they went away from him towards the end.
 

JAAM

Hall of Famer

JAAM

Hall of Famer
What was the story with him this year? He seemed to be more productive this year yet at the same time it appeared they went away from him towards the end.
Isn’t it because Brown was finally healthy?
 

Simba

Staff Member
Moderator
Jeff Z sticking with the OL prediction in the most recent article. The prompt was to make one prediction so I wouldn't say he's saying this matter of factly, but still interesting that he keeps beating this drum.

"Zrebiec: The Ravens will make one large free-agent purchase and it will be an interior offensive lineman. I don’t know whether it will be Packers center Corey Linsley, Falcons center Alex Mack, Patriots guard Joe Thuney or Washington guard Brandon Scherff. An exact name would obviously make the prediction spicier. It just seems like team officials are prioritizing solidifying the offensive line this offseason and with at least two holes in that starting group (three if they go ahead and trade right tackle Orlando Brown Jr.), it would be way too risky to wait for the draft to address the offensive line."
 

JAAM

Hall of Famer
Jeff Z sticking with the OL prediction in the most recent article. The prompt was to make one prediction so I wouldn't say he's saying this matter of factly, but still interesting that he keeps beating this drum.

"Zrebiec: The Ravens will make one large free-agent purchase and it will be an interior offensive lineman. I don’t know whether it will be Packers center Corey Linsley, Falcons center Alex Mack, Patriots guard Joe Thuney or Washington guard Brandon Scherff. An exact name would obviously make the prediction spicier. It just seems like team officials are prioritizing solidifying the offensive line this offseason and with at least two holes in that starting group (three if they go ahead and trade right tackle Orlando Brown Jr.), it would be way too risky to wait for the draft to address the offensive line."
I’d absolutely love Thuney or Lindsley here, but man I want Robinson so bad. It all starts in the trenches though, and I’m willing to take a gamble on a WR in the 1st, especially if we trade for the 13th and can get a top 3 guy
 
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