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Signings, Cuts, Trades

JoeyFlex5

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I have zero expectation that an EDGE player will be taken in the first round. It would actually just surprise me. Based on the scouting reports I've read, its just not the year for it.

Dline I think is an option. Oline is a major option. Safety is the wildcard that every single beat writer I've heard has suggested that the Ravens are extremely interested in upgrading, and I think that's a tough position typically to upgrade later in the draft, i.e. if we're going that route, it'll be early, and possibly as early as #27.

Oline, Safety, WR, Dline. That would be the four, in order, of where I would bet pick 27 comes in at.

Trading out of the first all together is also very possible, per usual. There's very little differences in most drafts between the guys you're getting in the late 20s and the guys you're getting in the late 30s. If you can get somebody to move up to 27 and still stay in the 30s and pick up a couple other picks, that would 100% be something I'd strongly consider.
The 2 best safeties in this class are widely viewed as day 2 guys
 

rmcjacket23

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The 2 best safeties in this class are widely viewed as day 2 guys
Generally agree. Of course the usual caveats that the Ravens may not view them that way, and that many of your early day 2 guys frequently get drafted late in day 1 for a variety of reasons. As others have suggested and I agree with... not really a whole lot difference between the 27th and 37th best players in this draft.

Unless you're grabbing a guy at 27 that pretty much every other GM has as like a 3rd round grade, there's not a lot of "reaching" for players in my eyes in this particular section of the draft. There's both a lot to like and a fair amount of criticism for just about anybody you're taking at 27. Includes WRs, lineman, etc.
 

BoredMarine13

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Villanueva visiting Thursday . Would love to sign him for some solid depth and possible starter if Orlando leaves.

Even more so for his intangibles as far as leadership and veteran presence.


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Dom McRaven

Hall of Famer
It is dead lol. Mahomes literally won a freaking super bowl and super bowl mvp award when he was on there.
There are exceptions to the rules dammit. And Mahomes is literally not from this planet, fuck what his birth certificate says. Lamar throws a redzone INT for the first time in his life, Koch shanks a punt, Tucker misses two FGs, and Lamar gets concussed. Madden Curse-esque behavior. Accept these facts on your way to the Pit of Misery. Have a good night.
 

ndub

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There are exceptions to the rules dammit. And Mahomes is literally not from this planet, fuck what his birth certificate says. Lamar throws a redzone INT for the first time in his life, Koch shanks a punt, Tucker misses two FGs, and Lamar gets concussed. Madden Curse-esque behavior. Accept these facts on your way to the Pit of Misery. Have a good night.

See you down there!
 

rmcjacket23

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Villanueva visiting Thursday . Would love to sign him for some solid depth and possible starter if Orlando leaves.

Even more so for his intangibles as far as leadership and veteran presence.


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Agree. Almost certainly won't be signed until the Monday after the draft, though. That's what a lot of these free agents will start taking more calls, visits, and signings.
 

ndub

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Agree. Almost certainly won't be signed until the Monday after the draft, though. That's what a lot of these free agents will start taking more calls, visits, and signings.

Do you see them going after an OL in the 1st if they come to an official/unofficial deal with him?
 

RavensMania

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Well, it would be funny for several reasons:
1. Fans thinking that the first round of the draft is the only place you could improve your roster or get a good player. Spoiler... extremely false.
2. Saying we need to improve an area by adding more adds is neither a guaranteed way to improve the area, nor does it really mean the area needed improvement at all. Improvement can come in many, many, many forms. Some of those forms, include, better coaching, better schemes, better play calling, and in a lot of cases, players already on the roster simply playing better.

I'm more concerned about our lack of a perceived pass rush at the moment. I'm more concerned about our Oline at the moment (by a wide margin). I'd also like us to make upgrades on the Dline, at Safety and add depth in a lot of other places.

And I can't really say that WR is significantly higher priority at this point than any single one of them. So yes, IF we address one of those other positions in the first round, and fans lose their mind because they're too narrow-minded to understand that there are 6 other rounds in a draft and many good players will come from those rounds, I will 100% find it amusing. And I don't feel bad about that in the slightest.
Stating fans only think the first round is a way to improve your roster is false. We are the best day three drafting team in the league and it's obvios by how many starters we have had from rounds 4-6. That is an absolutely false statement and based only on opinion and a bad opinion at that.

I'm also more concerned with the oline, pass rush and safety, but also believe the WR room needs to be improved. We can't solve all of our issues in the 2021 draft, but we definitely will be able to solve some of them and plug holes after the draft.
 

RavensMania

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Well, primarily, I'd like to see our passing game expand to throwing outside the numbers. And I think there are certain receivers (and tight ends) that prefer to work the middle of the field, and that's sort of where I think our grouping is now. Now that could be somewhat predicated on play calling and what Roman wants, but I just haven't sort of seen that.

I'd like to see us get a Boldin type. I don't have a lot of confidence in our guys on 3rd and medium at this point. I think a lot of our conversions on 3rd downs are mostly predicated on Lamar making plays and creating openings.

I would also say that our red zone efficiency dropped pretty significantly last season, and I'd like to see us be able to attack that much better in the passing game.
without checking the statistics, I'd agree that our 3rd down efficiency dropped last season, but that was on the offensive line. Losing Yanda was tremendous and then later we lost Stanley and Boyle. That is where the drop off in 3rd down efficiency lies, imo.

Which Bolden type of receivers in this draft are you interested in?
 

RavensMania

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This is exactly why I think our first pick will be on a Saturday. I’m usually against the whole trade down thing but after more thought about it, it would likely make the most sense
I think you mean Friday, since the draft starts on Thursday night. I like accumulating more picks and getting more at bats and would absolutely be for trading out of the first round.
 

ndub

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Yes, but he did have a small injury during the season, so it's not dead yet.

I think I’d take a year where I missed a few games but still won the Super Bowl and Super Bowl MVP as a non Madden curse year any day
 

rossihunter2

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No lie I think it’s happening, I think the ravens are gonna surprise the hell out of us with a trade up and not lose draft capital, and still have a starting pair of OTs

devonta smith?

idk - the only thing i'm fairly confident of right now is that alejandro villanueva will sign with the ravens on or around May 3rd... whether orlando gets traded, im still not sure at all one way or the other
 

ndub

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idk - the only thing i'm fairly confident of right now is that alejandro villanueva will sign with the ravens on or around May 3rd... whether orlando gets traded, im still not sure at all one way or the other

AV wouldn’t come here to be a backup
 
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