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redrum52

Hall of Famer
Honestly I not only support his actions, I fucking love em. He has been instrumental in the nfl lightening it’s stance on it, which has been desperately needed for a long time and I wish they would immediately reinstate josh Gordon and not test him for weed ever again.

It's not just weed.

Allegedly.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
I did something fun today, took my first dive into coaching. Just flag football, 10-12 7 on 7 league. Me, my brother in law, and one of our good friends, had my first practice today and I had more fun than I’ve had since playing in high school. Real excited and hoping I can learn it and develop it because I’d like to coach pop Warner when my son starts in a year or 2. Anyone here have any experience coaching kids?
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
So short answer is... in your entire prediction model there, I don't see it happening. One of two things would have to occur:
1. The Ravens throw the ball A LOT more. I know that Roman's been saying we'll throw more, and our offseason additions mean we should, but I'm not saying more. I'm saying a LOT more. Like 25 attempts isn't getting those numbers. He'll need to be like 30-35, at least. You're talking about 450-500 pass attempts in a season. My money is on that not happening.
2. There would need to be a long-term injury to likely Mark Andrews, that forces the Ravens into almost exclusive WR sets.

I think 700 yards for a third receiver is possible. I just don't think you can expect to get big jumps from Hollywood and/or Andrews without a major change in offensive philosophy.
add in that Boyle is back and we will probably pass the ball more to Dobbins as well as Duvernay being added into the mix. As a team we passed the ball around 400 times last season. With one extra game I'm thinking we end up with 450 to 460. I see one of Bateman and Watkins getting between 600 and 700 and the 3rd receiver getting 500, while Hollywood probably ends up under 1000, but more efficient.
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
add in that Boyle is back and we will probably pass the ball more to Dobbins as well as Duvernay being added into the mix. As a team we passed the ball around 400 times last season. With one extra game I'm thinking we end up with 450 to 460. I see one of Bateman and Watkins getting between 600 and 700 and the 3rd receiver getting 500, while Hollywood probably ends up under 1000, but more efficient.
So I had forgotten about the one extra game, so that could help make some of these "predictions" more realistic. Having said that... that would also make like a thousand yard receiver a bit less rare and probably not as significant. You already had 18 players top 1K receiving yards last year, and ten more who topped 900 yards, meaning they'd have a decent shot at getting to 1K with an additional game. You're basically going to get to a point where every team in the league could easily have a 1K receiver at some point. You're talking less than 60 yards per game if they play a full slate.

But generally, I'm skeptical of the "large shift" towards a more pass-oriented offense. Maybe its a bit dramatic, but I think this team wants to still run the ball a lot, they want it to be what they're good at, and I think they're comfortable with Lamar running it 5-10 times per game also.

Ideally, you probably wouldn't even want to see a huge shift in passing volume, but you should see a big increase in passing efficiency. Like Lamar's completion % isn't terrible at all, but its not necessarily MVP-level in this league either. Yards/attempt last year was nothing special... I expect that to improve.

A guy like Hollywood at a pretty low catch rate based on # of targets. I would hope that would increase. I think we can be much better as a pass game without throwing it a lot more. Which was my original premise of the offseason... I think we may spread the ball around more, meaning less "stats" for these guys, but better overall offensive production. I'd love to see us have like 4 guys between 700-900 yards receiving.
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
So I had forgotten about the one extra game, so that could help make some of these "predictions" more realistic. Having said that... that would also make like a thousand yard receiver a bit less rare and probably not as significant. You already had 18 players top 1K receiving yards last year, and ten more who topped 900 yards, meaning they'd have a decent shot at getting to 1K with an additional game. You're basically going to get to a point where every team in the league could easily have a 1K receiver at some point. You're talking less than 60 yards per game if they play a full slate.

But generally, I'm skeptical of the "large shift" towards a more pass-oriented offense. Maybe its a bit dramatic, but I think this team wants to still run the ball a lot, they want it to be what they're good at, and I think they're comfortable with Lamar running it 5-10 times per game also.

Ideally, you probably wouldn't even want to see a huge shift in passing volume, but you should see a big increase in passing efficiency. Like Lamar's completion % isn't terrible at all, but its not necessarily MVP-level in this league either. Yards/attempt last year was nothing special... I expect that to improve.

A guy like Hollywood at a pretty low catch rate based on # of targets. I would hope that would increase. I think we can be much better as a pass game without throwing it a lot more. Which was my original premise of the offseason... I think we may spread the ball around more, meaning less "stats" for these guys, but better overall offensive production. I'd love to see us have like 4 guys between 700-900 yards receiving.
definitely agree with what you are saying. As a fan i wouldn't even consider 1k yards pro bowl production. I would want the receiver to have atleast 70-80/1200 yards. Yep of course that isn't set in stone and i don't think hollywood makes the pro bowl but i do think he has pro bowl level efficiency.
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
So I had forgotten about the one extra game, so that could help make some of these "predictions" more realistic. Having said that... that would also make like a thousand yard receiver a bit less rare and probably not as significant. You already had 18 players top 1K receiving yards last year, and ten more who topped 900 yards, meaning they'd have a decent shot at getting to 1K with an additional game. You're basically going to get to a point where every team in the league could easily have a 1K receiver at some point. You're talking less than 60 yards per game if they play a full slate.

But generally, I'm skeptical of the "large shift" towards a more pass-oriented offense. Maybe its a bit dramatic, but I think this team wants to still run the ball a lot, they want it to be what they're good at, and I think they're comfortable with Lamar running it 5-10 times per game also.

Ideally, you probably wouldn't even want to see a huge shift in passing volume, but you should see a big increase in passing efficiency. Like Lamar's completion % isn't terrible at all, but its not necessarily MVP-level in this league either. Yards/attempt last year was nothing special... I expect that to improve.

A guy like Hollywood at a pretty low catch rate based on # of targets. I would hope that would increase. I think we can be much better as a pass game without throwing it a lot more. Which was my original premise of the offseason... I think we may spread the ball around more, meaning less "stats" for these guys, but better overall offensive production. I'd love to see us have like 4 guys between 700-900 yards receiving.
definitely agree with what you are saying. As a fan i wouldn't even consider 1k yards pro bowl production. I would want the receiver to have atleast 70-80/1200 yards. Yep of course that isn't set in stone and i don't think hollywood makes the pro bowl but i do think he has pro bowl level efficiency.
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
add in that Boyle is back and we will probably pass the ball more to Dobbins as well as Duvernay being added into the mix. As a team we passed the ball around 400 times last season. With one extra game I'm thinking we end up with 450 to 460. I see one of Bateman and Watkins getting between 600 and 700 and the 3rd receiver getting 500, while Hollywood probably ends up under 1000, but more efficient.
I like this prediction.i dnt see lamar passing for 4k, id like to see atleast 3500+ while he continue to have a very good td to int ratio... shit wild, our offense could very well be unpredictable.. imo we have the most versatile offense in nfl, no telling what tf we can do
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
I did something fun today, took my first dive into coaching. Just flag football, 10-12 7 on 7 league. Me, my brother in law, and one of our good friends, had my first practice today and I had more fun than I’ve had since playing in high school. Real excited and hoping I can learn it and develop it because I’d like to coach pop Warner when my son starts in a year or 2. Anyone here have any experience coaching kids?

not at football but at lots of other sports lol
 

Edgar

Ravens Ring of Honor
love this picture
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jboy19

Pro Bowler
I feel like he didn’t want 48, and tbh I didn’t like that peanut left and our first round pick ILB took the same number. I kinda like this

I have a personal conspiracy theory about this because I feel like the team does this, passive aggressively, pretty often. Like when they assigned 31 to Elam after he was drafted because of Pollard leaving (he switched a couple months later). Also, the team gave Morgan Cox's number (46) to Nick Moore when nobody was looking and made a public cross-social media post of giving 78 to Villanueva (despite having not announcing Zeitler's jersey number for weeks/months and never publicly to my knowledge).
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
I have a personal conspiracy theory about this because I feel like the team does this, passive aggressively, pretty often. Like when they assigned 31 to Elam after he was drafted because of Pollard leaving (he switched a couple months later). Also, the team gave Morgan Cox's number (46) to Nick Moore when nobody was looking and made a public cross-social media post of giving 78 to Villanueva (despite having not announcing Zeitler's jersey number for weeks/months and never publicly to my knowledge).
I’ve actually had these thoughts myself lmao, replacement players always seem to take the old guys number
 
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