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Welcome to Baltimore: Odafe Jayson Oweh

JoeyFlex5

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Interesting we gambled and got Oweh out of it. Who did y’all liked more between the two?
Oweh. If I’m gonna take an extremely raw edge rusher, I’m gonna take the guy with more impressive traits, and that’s oweh by far. Rousseau is extremely lackluster athletically and I legit don’t see the hype other than “you can play him at 5 and sub package 3tech, which tbh is a big stretch and that was probably the guys biggest selling point. Not explosive, not bendy, not very agile, not particularly stout, but he’s built like a freak and leverages well when he’s trying to get downhill. Oweh has similar struggles with needing to be more stout at the POA. he also needs to fire off the ball better, but he has the ability to, Rousseau probably doesn’t. And Oweh is an absolute killer in space, like your running playbook and running lanes shrink significantly against that guy if he’s just out there playing regular chase and tackle, god help ya if he develops and can regularly execute game plans as they change by the week
 

Jacquouille

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It's still bonkers to me that his arms are 34 and a half. That's elites types of long arms. Which is odd because I don't really see it on tape. But my god if he learns how to use those.
 

rossihunter2

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Literally. At just about everything. Like it's not just a 40 or a 7 cone, it's every freaking metric. Like if he's 78th percentile it's a weakness. I can't fathom such perfect testing.

his 40 time and broad jump are probably the best ever at his position
but he's freaky across every single testing metric

the only attribuets that pull down his RAS score (relative athletic scoring - which is one testing metric) as a DE are his weight and bench press and he still scores over 9.9 total - but if you switch his position to LB he scores a perfect 10 and resets the cumulative metric as the best ever in the history of NFL draft athletic testing at LB

only his bench press was a "let down"
 

ndub

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Random thought: If we look at Oweh like he was our 2nd round pick after Bateman being our 1st rounder, how do you feel about him now??
 

JoeyFlex5

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his 40 time and broad jump are probably the best ever at his position
but he's freaky across every single testing metric

the only attribuets that pull down his RAS score (relative athletic scoring - which is one testing metric) as a DE are his weight and bench press and he still scores over 9.9 total - but if you switch his position to LB he scores a perfect 10 and resets the cumulative metric as the best ever in the history of NFL draft athletic testing at LB

only his bench press was a "let down"
And again, longer arms are handicapped in this metric, and there doesn’t appear to be any adjustment in any kind of RAS in regards to that. And at 34 inch arms, yeah he’s gonna struggle with a mostly endurance based benchpress test.
 

Edgar

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Oweh not as refined but absolutely puts me in the mind of T.J watt as far as his ability to squeeze and chase down backside. He isn't as disciplined as Watt but the athleticism and physicality are there.
 

ndub

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Oweh not as refined but absolutely puts me in the mind of T.J watt as far as his ability to squeeze and chase down backside. He isn't as disciplined as Watt but the athleticism and physicality are there.

Watt has the discipline/experience advantage (of course he has blood ties to the NFL and has played football for pretty much all his life, so of course he has that advantage); Oweh has the athleticism edge, and I would say both are nearly similar in the physicality aspect
 
Oweh not as refined but absolutely puts me in the mind of T.J watt as far as his ability to squeeze and chase down backside. He isn't as disciplined as Watt but the athleticism and physicality are there.

who was your second player comp you mentioned you were going to share in your video?
 

RavensMania

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Think those are ceiling comps. I think the floor is Clowney
Floor?????? How is Clowney the floor. I wasn't a sweat fan coming out but this year he did well, but it's kind of hard not to do well on Washington's DL. They haven't had a line like that in Washington, since the 80s, when Dexter Manley and Charles Mann manned the edge.
 

ndub

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Floor?????? How is Clowney the floor. I wasn't a sweat fan coming out but this year he did well, but it's kind of hard not to do well on Washington's DL. They haven't had a line like that in Washington, since the 80s, when Dexter Manley and Charles Mann manned the edge.

Because at the very least, if he doesn’t develop literally anything else, he can play the run very well and be disruptive. Both those guys are almost the same exact size, and are very comparable athletic wise too. I think Sweat is actually a better pass rusher than Clowney
 

RavensMania

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Because at the very least, if he doesn’t develop literally anything else, he can play the run very well and be disruptive. Both those guys are almost the same exact size, and are very comparable athletic wise too. I think Sweat is actually a better pass rusher than Clowney
I like Clowney a lot better than Sweat and I'm not sure Sweat is any good on a weaker DL, although he definitely had improvement from year 1 to year 2
 

ndub

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I like Clowney a lot better than Sweat and I'm not sure Sweat is any good on a weaker DL, although he definitely had improvement from year 1 to year 2

You really think Clowney would have put up that number of sacks on that line? Clowney had a damn good line when he was in the early years of his career (like Sweat) and never had that many sacks until his 4th year.... Sweat is just now coming into his 3rd.

Matter of fact, if we give any credence at all to PFF scores, Clowney took years to ever get above the grade that Sweat put up in Sweat's 2nd year. Some of ya'll put more faith into name value alone than actual value and play
 
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