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The 2021 Offseason Thread

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
Really excited about this year because obviously we're a good team, but we have a lot of young players. If these guys can take steps forward, we should win a lot of games. My prediction for the season is our MVP like player outside of Lamar will be JK Dobbins. I think that dude has a chance to just be an animal this year.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
Really excited about this year because obviously we're a good team, but we have a lot of young players. If these guys can take steps forward, we should win a lot of games. My prediction for the season is our MVP like player outside of Lamar will be JK Dobbins. I think that dude has a chance to just be an animal this year.
Man honestly I’m expecting a league leading type season from him, not just hopeful but flat out expecting bare minimum top 3 in yards and YPC and would be disappointed if he fell shy of that.
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
Man honestly I’m expecting a league leading type season from him, not just hopeful but flat out expecting bare minimum top 3 in yards and YPC and would be disappointed if he fell shy of that.
I feel the same way too except gus and also lamar will get carries. Wont be able to get top 3 in yards cause of that.
 

BoredMarine13

Ravens Ring of Honor
It should have never been an issue, but people want to criticize every little thing when it comes to Lamar. Does he throw some ducks on occasion? Absolutely. That doesn't mean he does it consistently and it's rarely shown up in actual games. Lamar will be fine and I was never worried.

Eh it definitely shows in games. The int at Tennessee is one example that comes to mind. However, i don’t think it’s as big an issue as people make it. Your never going to have a perfect player that does everything. I’ll trade 2-3 ducks a game for his ability to rush for 100 yards in the same game. Lamar will never be a pure passer like Rodgers, Manning, Wilson etc… but he is still a good passer and so dynamic in other ways that it doesn’t matter.


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JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
I feel the same way too except gus and also lamar will get carries. Wont be able to get top 3 in yards cause of that.
I think you’re underestimating just how well I think he’s gonna do. I’m talking big workload across 17 games and 5, maybe even 6 YPC. Lots of big runs, cj2k type shit
 

RavensMania

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I think you’re underestimating just how well I think he’s gonna do. I’m talking big workload across 17 games and 5, maybe even 6 YPC. Lots of big runs, cj2k type shit
just look at his average from when he took over the starting role in week 9 and now he will be a bigger receiving option also
 

rossihunter2

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Eh it definitely shows in games. The int at Tennessee is one example that comes to mind. However, i don’t think it’s as big an issue as people make it. Your never going to have a perfect player that does everything. I’ll trade 2-3 ducks a game for his ability to rush for 100 yards in the same game. Lamar will never be a pure passer like Rodgers, Manning, Wilson etc… but he is still a good passer and so dynamic in other ways that it doesn’t matter.


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except the INT at Tennessee is the only one anyone can think of from last year...
can you remember any others?
because i cant think of any...

because he's definitely not throwing 2-3 ducks per game
 

rossihunter2

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I think you’re underestimating just how well I think he’s gonna do. I’m talking big workload across 17 games and 5, maybe even 6 YPC. Lots of big runs, cj2k type shit

JK's the most explosive back we've had since RR and maybe more explosive

the idea of what he might have been able to do in that 2019 offence is amazing to think of tbh

if the running game can continue to be effective the way it has been, he adds explosive plays from the RB position and while i still dont think the volume will be high enough for him to go crazy like CJ2K, i fully expect him to lead the league (or be very close to the top of the league) in YPC with a ton of yards overall
 

rossihunter2

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duv looks hella explosive in this small drill

he's a wildcard that im not expecting to become a route-runner but ive seen a couple of releases going back over his tape in 2020 that show off some nice explosion and upside vs press

route tree still tiny but if he can become a consistent threat running slants and posts etc. on top of being a threat on manufactured touches in the short game then he can add another dimension to this passing game - and if he does start becoming effective on those sorts of routes then boykin's days are 100% done as a WR in baltimore
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
I think you’re underestimating just how well I think he’s gonna do. I’m talking big workload across 17 games and 5, maybe even 6 YPC. Lots of big runs, cj2k type shit
i hope so.. i plan on getting him in my fantasy this year again but may pick him earlier than expected lol. Got henry 3yrs in a row and won 2, i doubt they let me get him again
 

BoredMarine13

Ravens Ring of Honor
except the INT at Tennessee is the only one anyone can think of from last year...
can you remember any others?
because i cant think of any...

because he's definitely not throwing 2-3 ducks per game

Really? I always find it interesting when fans can’t be honest with themselves about their teams players. Lamar throws a couple ducks every game, the Tenn INT came to mind because of how poor a throw it was in a big moment.

Lamar is still an amazing Qb that can get it done through the air and on the ground. More than capable of leading the team to a championship. I just don’t understand why it upsets people so much to bring up any flaw in his game. The guy struggles to throw a tight spiral …. Big deal. Like i said earlier he makes up for it in other ways.


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rmcjacket23

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I think you’re underestimating just how well I think he’s gonna do. I’m talking big workload across 17 games and 5, maybe even 6 YPC. Lots of big runs, cj2k type shit
I mean, big runs maybe. But like Chris Johnson had 250+ carries for 6 straight years in Tennessee. Dobbins won't get close to that. He's still sharing time with Edwards, and we collectively are also expecting more passing plays compared to running plays.

He'd have to average at least 15 carries a game to get that kind of value, and I don't think he'll get there. That's the peak of what we saw from him last season.

I can see him breaking off some 15,20,25 yard runs, but CJ2K was breaking off like a 50-60 yarder or more almost every game. I don't see Dobbins doing that with nearly that frequency.
 

rossihunter2

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Really? I always find it interesting when fans can’t be honest with themselves about their teams players. Lamar throws a couple ducks every game, the Tenn INT came to mind because of how poor a throw it was in a big moment.

Lamar is still an amazing Qb that can get it done through the air and on the ground. More than capable of leading the team to a championship. I just don’t understand why it upsets people so much to bring up any flaw in his game. The guy struggles to throw a tight spiral …. Big deal. Like i said earlier he makes up for it in other ways.


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but like which plays?
im not saying he doesnt miss throws but i cant think of any ducks other than the Tenn INT...
 

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
Anyone notice how there's been a lot of buzz about Daelin Hayes? Like there are articles saying he's one of the standout rookies across the league at this point in the off-season.

I can kind of understand how you could look bad at this point but not really how you can look good and have that be meaningful.

Of course I'd rather have him look good as opposed to bad, but I'm not sure it means much.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
Anyone notice how there's been a lot of buzz about Daelin Hayes? Like there are articles saying he's one of the standout rookies across the league at this point in the off-season.

I can kind of understand how you could look bad at this point but not really how you can look good and have that be meaningful.

Of course I'd rather have him look good as opposed to bad, but I'm not sure it means much.
Daelin hayes was one of the absolute most underrated and unappreciated prospects in this draft. To me he’s got starting OLB in a multiple front written all over him in big fucking bold black ink. The league really messed up letting the ravens get him for such a great value.

the thing about hayes is that you never got the feeling that he would struggle with a learning curve or anything like that, he’s a natural football player, very high iq, very heads up, both proactive and reactive as the situation calls for it, very well rounded and just a ready to go kind of prospect.

I’ve been seeing all the buzz as well, and as someone who watched a lot of his tape, I was not surprised about the buzz. If he’s generating buzz this early it’s likely because he’s the smartest rookie in the building, and is just head and shoulders above others as far as study habits and what not, so when he suits up for practice he’s mentally more prepared out there running circles around other rookies, thinking less and doing more.

again, not surprising at all. This kid is a natural linebacker. He’s gonna kill in our scheme. Im honestly expecting him to be a locked in starter once 2022 rolls around, maybe even as early as this year, because bowser is one starter but Oweh and Ferguson I’m not so sure about, that other OLB role is up for grabs and I believe hayes is a safer choice to start early than Oweh, and by safer I mean a more fundamentally sound and high iq prospect.
 

rossihunter2

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Anyone notice how there's been a lot of buzz about Daelin Hayes? Like there are articles saying he's one of the standout rookies across the league at this point in the off-season.

I can kind of understand how you could look bad at this point but not really how you can look good and have that be meaningful.

Of course I'd rather have him look good as opposed to bad, but I'm not sure it means much.

where have you seen all this stuff around the league? ive been really busy at work and not seen much stuff... can you point me to any articles etc.?
 

RavensMania

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Administrator
where have you seen all this stuff around the league? ive been really busy at work and not seen much stuff... can you point me to any articles etc.?
it may have been a bleacher report article showing the standout rookies from OTAs. Featured 8 players and he was one of them.
 
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