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The Defence, The Bad, The Ugly - Chargers Edition

Grim

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He definitely came back in the game
I thought so but wasn’t sure if the beer got to my memory lol. I was pretty sure I saw him though. He was only out for a bit I thought. I think Queen looked better today but Harrison…that guy needs work
 

JoeyFlex5

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I thought so but wasn’t sure if the beer got to my memory lol. I was pretty sure I saw him though. He was only out for a bit I thought. I think Queen looked better today but Harrison…that guy needs work
Queen looked much better today, he was playing with a hairpin trigger again, which is his best asset and he’s lacked it all year for some reason. He was also making tackles, he needs to bring more thud with his hits though, even when he makes good impact and wraps up he still gets dragged on plays he shouldn’t. He said his weight is down this year and I’m thinking now that it’s a mistake.
 

Grim

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Queen looked much better today, he was playing with a hairpin trigger again, which is his best asset and he’s lacked it all year for some reason. He was also making tackles, he needs to bring more thud with his hits though, even when he makes good impact and wraps up he still gets dragged on plays he shouldn’t. He said his weight is down this year and I’m thinking now that it’s a mistake.
The weight may be it but he has missed too many tackles this year. It was too many bad tackling form than getting dragged but the dragged has happened. I did see him get blocked out of a tackle and then pushed to the ground but the missed tackles gotta stop. He’s channeling vintage Elam at times. I think Bynes may help him.
 

Simba

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The one real negative is that the Bell fascination should probably end as well. Freeman looked the best he has in a Ravens uniform. Murray looked the best he has in a Ravens uniform. Bell had the same opportunity and didn't do much with it. Not sure his ultra patient running style is a fit here now that we saw him actually get some opportunity. Didn't have that same burst to get upfield when he did find a hole he liked.
 

Grim

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The one real negative is that the Bell fascination should probably end as well. Freeman looked the best he has in a Ravens uniform. Murray looked the best he has in a Ravens uniform. Bell had the same opportunity and didn't do much with it. Not sure his ultra patient running style is a fit here now that we saw him actually get some opportunity. Didn't have that same burst to get upfield when he did find a hole he liked.
Bell looks like a WR too. Not sure if he lost weight or something but I do see him just not being a great fit. Maybe it’s lack of rhythm with the OL but yeah he hasn’t quite clicked.
 

Simba

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Bell looks like a WR too. Not sure if he lost weight or something but I do see him just not being a great fit. Maybe it’s lack of rhythm with the OL but yeah he hasn’t quite clicked.

And it's not to say he doesn't have some value to us, especially if Murray is down for a bit. He's still a good blocker and he can still be a guy that sees some carries. I just wouldn't expect some career renaissance at this point. He's on his last legs and will likely be no more than the 3rd option at any given point if he sticks around.
 

rossihunter2

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The one real negative is that the Bell fascination should probably end as well. Freeman looked the best he has in a Ravens uniform. Murray looked the best he has in a Ravens uniform. Bell had the same opportunity and didn't do much with it. Not sure his ultra patient running style is a fit here now that we saw him actually get some opportunity. Didn't have that same burst to get upfield when he did find a hole he liked.

i guess we'll see but i dont think he was bad - just not quite in sync yet... he's had less game time with the OL and is only just getting into match fitness

if he looks lethargic 2 or 3 weeks from now then sure - but he's shown some quick feet and cuts that suggest to me that he's still got some utility in this offence - that being said, i think devonta freeman's grabbed a hold of the lead receiving back role although we saw bell get some of those snaps too
 

rossihunter2

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And it's not to say he doesn't have some value to us, especially if Murray is down for a bit. He's still a good blocker and he can still be a guy that sees some carries. I just wouldn't expect some career renaissance at this point. He's on his last legs and will likely be no more than the 3rd option at any given point if he sticks around.

for sure he's clearly RB3 - but i think he offers more value to us (and despite his age ironically more upside i think) than Ty'son
 

Simba

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i guess we'll see but i dont think he was bad - just not quite in sync yet... he's had less game time with the OL and is only just getting into match fitness

if he looks lethargic 2 or 3 weeks from now then sure - but he's shown some quick feet and cuts that suggest to me that he's still got some utility in this offence - that being said, i think devonta freeman's grabbed a hold of the lead receiving back role although we saw bell get some of those snaps too

I just saw a lot of what we hated from Ty'Son... although for different reasons. Obviously with his style, he moves laterally, waits for the hole, and explodes. The latter is what I think the issue was today. Saw him move outside a few times and then try to hit the hole and it just looked slow and labored. Hoping it's still getting his football legs under him but I'm not totally convinced that's the case.
 

Adreme

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You sure? I thought I saw Queen back in the second half. I’m pretty sure he was there

That is what I said. He got hurt. Missed some series. Came back. Then they had him out for at least the drive in the 4th once the game was over (likely out of safety).
 

JAAM

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I wish Lamar had another big day with his arm but I’m happy with the dub
 

rossihunter2

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I just saw a lot of what we hated from Ty'Son... although for different reasons. Obviously with his style, he moves laterally, waits for the hole, and explodes. The latter is what I think the issue was today. Saw him move outside a few times and then try to hit the hole and it just looked slow and labored. Hoping it's still getting his football legs under him but I'm not totally convinced that's the case.

so much of that is about timing - i dont think it's about lack of explosion (but could be wrong) from what ive seen through his first 2 games i think it's more about chemistry with the OL - and you can see the upside on a few reps
 

Simba

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so much of that is about timing - i dont think it's about lack of explosion (but could be wrong) from what ive seen through his first 2 games i think it's more about chemistry with the OL - and you can see the upside on a few reps

He just looks slow. Not that he hasn't always been slow, but just looks like he doesn't have the juice anymore. But of course I realize this is a judgment on 8 carries today. With Murray down, he'll likely be in line for some more work here so we'll see if it's one side, the other, or a little bit of both.
 

SepticeyePoe

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Bell looks like a WR too. Not sure if he lost weight or something but I do see him just not being a great fit. Maybe it’s lack of rhythm with the OL but yeah he hasn’t quite clicked.
Maybe it was the 17, lol
 
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