2022 General Draft Thoughts

rossihunter2 said:

idk anything about winfrey...

is that how high you think Hall's going to go?

if so then this senior bowl interior DL class is absolutely fucking stacked

trenches are gonna be hella fun there

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Well TDN has him there and I know that means jack shit but then I watched some tape and he looked unblockable, and R2 was looking like shit in this one otherwise because I took cross and there were like 3 OTs who I would’ve taken had I not taken a OT in R1

Latest CBS mock gave us Sauce. How we feelin about him

JAAM said:

Latest CBS mock gave us Sauce. How we feelin about him

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pretty good - from what ive watched so far he can be a bit grabby and might lack some of that real elite top-end speed because he seems to panic on some vertical routes and with some guys who are really sharp with their change of direction (but might be more to do with man footwork technique - not seen enough to say one way or the other) - but he does lots of subtle things really really well and locked up basically everyone - didnt give up a TD his whole college career and locked up jameson williams when they were matched up on each other against bama

seems pretty scheme diverse, closes on the ball really well, uses his length well, constantly aligned in press and looks to be physical - really intelligent guy - i love how quickly he diagnoses stuff and the way he sometimes hides his responsibility and the coverage pre-snap (doesnt seem like anyone else on that defence does some of the things he does)

not sure where he'll end up on my board (i havent graded anyone properly yet) but id be surprised if he doesnt end up inside my top 20 when it's all said and done

JAAM said:

Latest CBS mock gave us Sauce. How we feelin about him

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My preference would be to look for corner depth later on the draft, but I would be pretty happy with him. I like how aggressive he is, like a longer version of Marcus Peters.

RaineV1 said:

My preference would be to look for corner depth later on the draft, but I would be pretty happy with him. I like how aggressive he is, like a longer version of Marcus Peters.

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i definitely saw a few plays especially of his that made me think of MP too

separately i love the way he keeps his eye discipline in man - really reads the receivers down at the hips and has good timing to turn and play the ball

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-David Ojabo

JAAM said:

Latest CBS mock gave us Sauce. How we feelin about him

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If we jumped on sauce i wouldn’t care who else was on the board, I’m that high on him. Like I don’t think a cb in round 1 is the best idea, but this guy in particular I’m with it.

Roger mccreary is another one, not in the teens but if we moved back to the late 20s for a big haul, mccreary is high on my list, those 2 are my absolute dogs of this corner class. Kyler Gordon on day 2 as well.

Davesta said:

“I’m a Raven! It’s on! All day.. errday.”
-David Ojabo

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Gaaahhhhhhhh-lee

I’ve been doing an absolute fuckload of mocks on TDN and I’m a big BPA try to draft a superstar steal with every pick kinda guy, so I constantly find myself loading up on a bunch of wild stuff, and it always feels like shit. Like I’ll end up with 2 edges and a TE and a LB before round 6 every time, and every time I say shit man I need more OL.

JoeyFlex5 said:

If we jumped on sauce i wouldn’t care who else was on the board, I’m that high on him. Like I don’t think a cb in round 1 is the best idea, but this guy in particular I’m with it.

Roger mccreary is another one, not in the teens but if we moved back to the late 20s for a big haul, mccreary is high on my list, those 2 are my absolute dogs of this corner class. Kyler Gordon on day 2 as well.

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McCreary feels like he's built in the same mold as Jimmy Smith and Marlon Humphrey. Really physical, fluid athlete that does a great job of positioning himself, as well as taking over WR's routes to keep them out of place. Would be happy with him as a trade down target.

JoeyFlex5 said:

If we jumped on sauce i wouldn’t care who else was on the board, I’m that high on him. Like I don’t think a cb in round 1 is the best idea, but this guy in particular I’m with it.

Roger mccreary is another one, not in the teens but if we moved back to the late 20s for a big haul, mccreary is high on my list, those 2 are my absolute dogs of this corner class. Kyler Gordon on day 2 as well.

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Is Sauce the type of corner that could handle one of the Bengals WRs? The "amigos," as they call them, are gonna be a thorn for at least 5 years.

Dom McRaven said:

Is Sauce the type of corner that could handle one of the Bengals WRs? The "amigos," as they call them, are gonna be a thorn for at least 5 years.

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idk about 5 years - for sure 2 years

not sure yet with sauce - Cincinnati played a ton of zone from what I’ve seen so far

*nut*

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Of course I say this without really delving deep into anyone to this point and just watching on TV on Saturdays, but think the QB market will really play into who we end up with. This looks like another weak year if you have a need there, but we know teams can still panic if they don't have a guy. Hoping there's some hype around a Pickett or Howell or Willis and teams just feel the need to beat the others and bam, something good makes it to us. But I feel like if there's any year in recent history where QBs could be waiting a bit, it's this year. All have some things to like but none of them scream a good NFL player at this juncture. My hope is that Mac Jones is a shining example of teams not wanting to wait and just taking a guy.

Also I know it's a scout the player and not the helmet/name situation, but seeing Elam on the back of a Florida jersey is just a no go for me lol

Simba said:

With attention shifting here now...

Of course I say this without really delving deep into anyone to this point and just watching on TV on Saturdays, but think the QB market will really play into who we end up with. This looks like another weak year if you have a need there, but we know teams can still panic if they don't have a guy. Hoping there's some hype around a Pickett or Howell or Willis and teams just feel the need to beat the others and bam, something good makes it to us. But I feel like if there's any year in recent history where QBs could be waiting a bit, it's this year. All have some things to like but none of them scream a good NFL player at this juncture. My hope is that Mac Jones is a shining example of teams not wanting to wait and just taking a guy.

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from my initial look around it seems like Pickett is expected to go somewhere R1, Willis as you say could have someone hyped hoping to capture the lightning in a bottle

but ive thought for a while that sam howell is probably due to rise up the boards and rankings - has all the tools to get scouts excited and when surrounded with weapons in 2020 he was dynamic and electric - he's also headlining the senior bowl too so a big chance to have scouts fall in love with him

id be surprised if more than 3 QBs were in play in round 1

matt corrall and desmond ridder at first glance dont strike me as the guys that nfl teams would covet that high but it only takes 1 team to fall in love

as you say though the free agent market is going to be massive here - cant imagine that under fire coaching staffs in carolina and new york will be able to not draft a rookie with their top pick if they dont land one of the free agents (or trade for a proven guy)

got to think all of these teams in the top 15 will be looking at a QB somewhere in free agency or the draft:

lions
texans
giants
panthers
falcons (maybe)
broncos
washington
vikings (maybe - if new coaching staff)

and a couple outside the top 15: saints, steelers

got to think though that the giants and panthers staffs cant afford not to find a QB this offseason and depending on what happens in houston we're probably looking at situations in houston and denver where new coaches want to find "their" guy to nurture and develop - possibly minnesota and washington too

lots of QB needy teams - not many QB prospects

Some mock drafting to drown my sorrows:

Simba said:

Also I know it's a scout the player and not the helmet/name situation, but seeing Elam on the back of a Florida jersey is just a no go for me lol

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Dude I know, when I saw Elam I was like Hell no!

I would love it if we could get Hamilton. I feel like he’s as good a safety as I’ve seen

Grim said:

Dude I know, when I saw Elam I was like Hell no!

I would love it if we could get Hamilton. I feel like he’s as good a safety as I’ve seen

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Fun fact about Kaiir Elam that I just learned... Matt is apparently his uncle...

Simba said:

Fun fact about Kaiir Elam that I just learned... Matt is apparently his uncle...

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He’s an automatic no then.