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I wish. That guy's a lot richer today than he was a month ago.

I didn't say you did. You said you don't care whether he does or doesn't, but spent significant time selling the idea that he should because it met some arbitrary standard of "it's the right thing to do". You cared enough to spend a decent chunk of time explaining why you think he should. And...

You have made a very significant time investment this morning debating the moralities of something you allegedly don't care about.

I also just described people who want a public thank you from a stranger for things they didn't achieve. Or is that not what you were asking for?

The exaggerated sense of one's own importance. Yeah, I used it correctly.

You certainly are. And I expressed my opinion that your opinion was one of arrogance.

I think the right thing to do is to thank the people who helped you achieve the things that you did. And he did that. You're just overvaluing your impact on what he achieved. I think when you're expecting a thank you for something you didn't earn, it's hard to sell the idea that "I know what...

Right. You're fine with acknowledging that he earned the platform, provided he uses it the way you want him to. Morally, we definitely agree to disagree.

Nope. I'm looking at the group of people who wants a public thank you for posting on message boards.

So I would say a) his defenses have been pretty good for a long time at various stops, b) he coached here for four years, so there's familiarity within the castle and c) I think he gets the max out of players. I think the Chargers D has some good players but also isn't really the most talented...

You didn't say you gave him the platform. You're telling him what he should do with the platform he earned. At what point do you realize that not only are you not qualified to tell somebody what to do with a platform that you had nothing to do with them earning, but also that it makes you look...

I relish the opportunity to make people feel stupid when they either take a ridiculously stupid position, or in this case, display massive character flaws that make them look like arrogant pricks. I absolutely relish in that opportunity.

Because there's two types of fans: 1. Fans who understand what their role as a fan is, and what little impact they actually have on the output that occurs. 2. Fans who believe they're entitled to take credit for things they didn't earn, merely because they spent some time posting on message...

Right but he EARNED that platform. Fans did nothing to give it to him. Fans can't even argue his compensation is tied to their output, because it's not. His platform was earned by the time he spent as a coach, and the success he had doing so. He didn't earn the platform because fans decided to...

You struggling with a morality assessment is the least surprising thing I'll see today.

I don't really need to answer this. You know it's the right thing to do.

Show me the "majority of fans" are have shown public gratitude. You're asking for John to show you public gratitude for things that you didn't really earn. At a minimum, I'd think that should be reciprocated.

Well yeah. Imagine having the arrogance to think that a person who did a shit load more than work than you to achieve things that you personally take credit for owes you gratitude, while you offer none. Where I come from, we call that being a piece of shit human being. What do you call that...

And the fans thanking him would be the right thing to do also would it not? Or is respect and morals only a one way street...

Well three obvious caveats: 1. This doesn't mean they're keeping Horton. It means they want the new HC to have the option of retaining Horton if he chooses. Doesn't mean he stays. 2. He's been the ST coordinator for 7 years, and was the assistant ST coach for five years before that. So unless...