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Correct. HC experience wasn't something they saw in him. You were the one that suggested that experience and merit was a factor. Experience couldn't have been a factor if other there were other coaches with more experience. You're missing the point where experience and certainly merit, of the...

I mean in terms of NFL teams, "experience" clearly isn't a critical factor in decision making to begin with. If it was, nobody could ever hire Jesse Minter as a HC over Sean McDermott. But they did.

I mean the take is bad, but DEI really can't be a thing in a company or, in this case, an entire industry, where the predominant worker is a minority. If you isolate the total employee population to just a small subset of entire population, it looks bad. That would be true in the overwhelming...

So the main problem is that "experience and merit" is inherently subjective. Ravens hired a guy with no HC experience, while not hiring several available coaches who do have HC experience. So our current hire doesn't fit the qualifications of "experience", because he literally has none doing the...

So I think the opposite on the Browns. The Browns I think somewhat did what they should do, which is "I'm not going to do two random minority interviews right away to knock out this rule". They were behind on interviewing minorities because they actually wanted to interview minorities that could...

Because they want minority coaches to be hired, as long as it's not on their team. For their team, they just want the best candidate for the job.

I mean... I don't really see racism at all in any of the NFL's owners. Granted, I don't know them personally, so they got be walking around yelling N at everybody they see. But through their actions, I'm not seeing it. Racism, to me, implies that these Billionaires are somehow afraid of a black...

Well yeah, because there's a historical massive disparity of minorities at QB in general. Many of your QB coaches played QB. Since historically QB has been a white-person position overwhelmingly, you would expect it to have less black coaches. It's not impossible for a QB coach to be one without...

I mean, in this scenario, not really. The only way you'll see a mass influx of black HCs or even coordinators is when you get either a) black owners, which won't be happening materially for a long, long, long time or b) black people at prominent roles at the top of the org, such as GM...

Yup. Or maybe the access that the risk exceeds the reward. Most coaches, GMs, and even Owners are conservative by nature.

Sure, but if they leave, call their own plays, and don't succeed doing so, their likelihood of getting HC offers dwindles. They're in a position where if they simply stay the course and do the same things they did last year, they're front runners for HC jobs next offseason.

I'd rather coach Lamar. But if I'm Webb, I'd rather coach Nix. And if I'm Doyle, I'd probably rather coach Caleb. Most of these OCs get captured for player development and play calling. I don't think many OC's are going to come here and get much credit for player development with Lamar, given...

I mean he certainly deserves some blame for not making the SB. He made critical mistakes in nearly all of the games that denied him getting there. And Monken's play calling was a factor in some of those early dismissals too. I'm pointing out that I think people are dramatically overestimating...

But Monken didn't get Lamar "over the hump". Monken got a HC gig because he's had numerous quality offensive outputs with numerous NFL teams. And because pretty much nobody with any long term aspirations as a HC wants the Browns job. Greg Roman isn't a HC. He was the OC when Lamar won an MVP and...

Which part of my statement made you think I said Monken didn't have success with Lamar?

The obvious other sides of keeping Schwartz as HC is that your offense still sucks and you still need both talent and play calling infusions across nearly all fronts of that offense. Including possibly QB. As we've mentioned with the Ravens, not a lot of high profile OC's left for Schwartz to...

Or maybe play calling for Lamar isn't the greatest job in the world that people make it out to be. You could argue that play calling for Webb and Scheelhaase specifically comes with inherent risk of failure, which would reduce their chances of landing a HC gig. With Lamar in particular, even if...

There aren't many, if any, "red hot names" left. That's the point. No reason for Webb to leave Denver. No reason for Scheelhasse to leave LAR. These guys are getting HC looks without being play callers, and they have exceptional play callers they can learn from by staying right where they are...

I've pushed back on him a few times. He basically committed to this logic that Klay Kubiak staying in SF, which was entirely expected throughout this process, was like the backbreaker for the coordinator market. Which made no sense to me.

It should be Stafford. Though I believe there hasn't been an MVP who wasn't one of the top two seeds in their own conference since 2012 (Adrian Peterson).