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Final (But Probably Not) Mock

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
putting myself in erics shoes, staying put as i dont wanna predict trades, making the picks that i think seem like decosta picks.

ROUND 1:
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Lots of smoke here and i think come draft night, there will be fire. as much as i like kelvin harmon and JJAW as guys who could dominate the boundary in consistent 1v1 situations with all the safety help being inside, i think even more important is addressing the gaping hole on the interior OL. this is, and with lamar at the helm always will be a run first team, and if we want this new offense to go ANYWHERE the line needs a massive upgrade in at least one spot. McCoy doesnt have the raw power of an elgton jenkins, he isnt the stellar athlete and mad scientist that garrett bradbury is, but what he does bring is safety, this is just a flat out safe pick, i personally like both of the aforementioned guys more, but this feels like a ravens pick and those guys just dont. McCoy is our day one starting center and our team gets a shitton better by not having an absolute meme starting at maybe the most crucial position on the OL, and frankly, having a pretty damn good and well rounded one bringing that upgrade. 3 year starter, consistently excellent throughout, field general material, stellar pass blocker, solid positional run blocker and pretty damn good on mobile blocks, lamar will love this pick and so will greg roman.

ROUND 3: with lots of edge rushers and DTs taken in the first and early second, the run on WRs, RBs, IOL, and DBs begins, causing talents at the 2 deepest positions to fall
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Here is the big tumbler when the draft comes. Jachai Polite was already tough for teams to get a grasp on, he has ridiculous explosion, bend, and finishes as well as anyone, but is horrid as a run defender and really only has value as a pure designated edge rusher, but man is he gifted in that one area. Add all of that to the fact that he absolutely BOMBED the combine and you have a prospect primed to take a massive fall. This shouldnt even be considered a bold prediction, we see falls much crazier than this every year for seemingly no reason, but every time an incomplete prospect who was teetering on late R1 and early R2 such as polite absolutely tanks the combine, they take a huge fall, it never fails. So, in the season where we lose sizzle, Tim Williams will get his chance, and he will shine, Willie Henry will shine, Michael Pierce will continue to shine, and Jachai Polite will not get the dean pees treatment, he will be given rush snaps, and he will be a weapon, he is just dripping with legitimate NFL edge rush talent.

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Trysten Hill, DT, UCF
still generating no buzz, still an absolute freak of an athlete, still a straight up beast of a DT. With Lamar Jackson at QB you gotta Git Gud in the trenches, but on BOTH sides. if this team isnt playing defense its not going anywhere, and we lost a lot of guys, still having the best secondary in the league it is imperative that we stock up on young and explosive talent up front, these are value picks at the strength of the class and the value is dogshit on offense here, so jachai polite and trysten hill in an absolutely stacked DL and edge class easily fall to the third, and the ravens defense is ready to HUNT.

ROUND 4: offensive value begins to become a reality here.
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the caption says deep threat, but dont get it twisted... antoine wesley is a legitimate receiver, and not just a specialist in any way. He is one of the better big bodied route runners in the class, maybe even the best, hes got a lot of size and length but he is a sharp and sudden route runner with all the extra nuances you wanna see from an NFL prospect, he will be able to manipulate NFL DBs with the way he moves. His speed scares nobody, but im not concerned, if you wanna send him deep, double moves and deep posts, hes got the tools to work the shit outta those, he catches very well, hes no kelvin harmon or JJAW but hes far from a slouch there, he can go up and get it, he can adjust midair and make some acrobatic catches, he can fight for the ball, he can also secure a ball in traffic with ease and pluck one through contact. hes a well rounded receiver lacking speed and is criminally slept on.

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Phil Haynes, G, Wake Forest
if you havent watched him, then go ahead and watch him. hes a spacemaker, an absolute bully, low pad level and forward lean, drives from the lower body upward, puts guys on skates consistently with pretty excellent power blocking form. sturdy anchor in pass pro and just average feet. this is one of a few names ive stumbled upon recently that ive ended up impressed with, more of those coming in the later picks lol

ROUND 5:
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absurdly high grade from pff and his qb simply didnt look his way often enough, his production could have been even higher. from what ive seen, this guy has elite feet, elite burst, very quality routes with plenty of room to develop into elite, excellent deep threat who absolutely owns press coverage, tracks well over the shoulder and squeezes down the sideline well, good elusiveness after the catch, just a really slept on player. before the catch he reminds me a little bit of calvin ridley actually with the incredible agility and burst he runs his routes with. cant for the life of me understand why hes so slept on.

ROUND 6:
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Reggie White Jr. WR, Monmouth
ravens had a private workout with this guy, so i checked the tape and liked what i saw, he was an excellent big bodied deep threat with steller ball tracking, ball attacking, and hands, along with just being a big powerful guy who just looks like a man among boys when hes playing these small school guys. if youre a small school prospect you need to be absolutely dominating everyone on the field, and thats exactly what he did. he was practically unstoppable any time the qb just wanted to hang it up there for him. the ravens had a private workout with him and it was a short list, they must see something they really like.

ill add the final pick later lol something just came up
 

Edgar

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@JoeyFlex5

Really really like this mock in general. Polite might bust....really makes me nervous but would be difficult to let slide past you in the third. I need to check out the guard from Wake forest and the wideout from Toledo. Love the Trysen Hill pick and was thinking along the same lines.
 

JoeyFlex5

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@JoeyFlex5

Really really like this mock in general. Polite might bust....really makes me nervous but would be difficult to let slide past you in the third. I need to check out the guard from Wake forest and the wideout from Toledo. Love the Trysen Hill pick and was thinking along the same lines.
Polite makes me nervous too, but so did Orlando brown Jr lol. He just seems primed for a fall and he has too much pass rush talent to pass on at that point. If any team is gonna make him work, it’s either us(now that pees is gone) or Seattle.
 

Edgar

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Polite makes me nervous too, but so did Orlando brown Jr lol. He just seems primed for a fall and he has too much pass rush talent to pass on at that point. If any team is gonna make him work, it’s either us(now that pees is gone) or Seattle.
If approaching from an Eric DeCosta presumed mindset, Polite and Hill do not feel like something I would expect in the draft. I'll really be shocked if we select Trysten Hill.

This is not something I want for us but I'm pretty convinced we are taking a running back.....probably early if I'm trying to think like The ravens past.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
If approaching from an Eric DeCosta presumed mindset, Polite and Hill do not feel like something I would expect in the draft. I'll really be shocked if we select Trysten Hill.

This is not something I want for us but I'm pretty convinced we are taking a running back.....probably early if I'm trying to think like The ravens past.
I don’t think this is the ravens past though. I don’t think decosta is even close to the same mindset as Ozzie it free agency is any indication.

And why would trysten hill be shocking? He’s an elite athlete at a position we develop extremely well and value highly, and he fits a more modern prototype of pass rushing 3tech and I feel decosta is trying to modernize this team a bit
 

Oldfaithful

Hall of Famer
I'd be happy with this if this was our real draft. Glad to see that others agree with me that the trenches are by far the biggest need on the team. Though I do see us drafting a RB early-ish. We do need a speed guy to compliment.

My mock is coming soon. Who knows, maybe I take all long snappers this time
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
I'd be happy with this if this was our real draft. Glad to see that others agree with me that the trenches are by far the biggest need on the team. Though I do see us drafting a RB early-ish. We do need a speed guy to compliment.

My mock is coming soon. Who knows, maybe I take all long snappers this time
Just make sure you include a trade for jake butt
 

Edgar

Ravens Ring of Honor
I don’t think this is the ravens past though. I don’t think decosta is even close to the same mindset as Ozzie it free agency is any indication.

And why would trysten hill be shocking? He’s an elite athlete at a position we develop extremely well and value highly, and he fits a more modern prototype of pass rushing 3tech and I feel decosta is trying to modernize this team a bit
I would be overjoyed with Hill. He just doesn't feel like a Ravens target type to me. Id sooner see us targeting an LJ Collier/Joe Jackson/Jaylon Ferguson type. Heck, I could see us drafting Terry MacLauren with Hill on the board, though you are hopefully on to something with the idea that this is a brand new mindset
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
I would be overjoyed with Hill. He just doesn't feel like a Ravens target type to me. Id sooner see us targeting an LJ Collier/Joe Jackson/Jaylon Ferguson type. Heck, I could see us drafting Terry MacLauren with Hill on the board, though you are hopefully on to something with the idea that this is a brand new mindset
I may be in the minority but I thought Mark Andrews was very much not a ravens type of pick, he didn’t seem like the type of TE we would value, I really do think the attitude towards team building is changing. We drafted Willie Henry in round 4 years ago and he is a very similar style player but was maybe even less pro ready and less explosive on tape than hill. Maybe that was a bit of me projecting what I want lol but I don’t think it’s not a ravens type of pick.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
Polite feels atypical but trysten hill kinda feels like he’d be someone we’d think about at the backend of the 3rd or in the 4th if he gets there

It just depends on how we feel about him as a person like with Tim Williams and Alex Lewis
Does polite have character concerns? I haven’t heard of any. And yeah I thought Tim Williams was surprising myself, but the fact that they took him shows that we may be willing to look past maturity issues
 

rossihunter2

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Does polite have character concerns? I haven’t heard of any. And yeah I thought Tim Williams was surprising myself, but the fact that they took him shows that we may be willing to look past maturity issues

apparently he absolutely bombed the combine interviews with multiple teams and was outright aggressive
that's not in and of itself a thing that gets him taken off boards etc. but its not the kind of thing that the ravens have typically looked over and taken a guy who did stuff like that - we're known for not minding prospects who bomb the physical side of the combine throughout ravens history: see suggs for a historic example, see Orlando Brown Jr for a recent example... but bombing the interviews in the way he apparently did is not something we've historically looked past
 

JoeyFlex5

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apparently he absolutely bombed the combine interviews with multiple teams and was outright aggressive
that's not in and of itself a thing that gets him taken off boards etc. but its not the kind of thing that the ravens have typically looked over and taken a guy who did stuff like that - we're known for not minding prospects who bomb the physical side of the combine throughout ravens history: see suggs for a historic example, see Orlando Brown Jr for a recent example... but bombing the interviews in the way he apparently did is not something we've historically looked past
Oh shit I didn’t hear about that... aggressive? What the hell lol. I wonder if he snapped at some of the weird ass personal questions teams like to ask
 

Oldfaithful

Hall of Famer
Oh shit I didn’t hear about that... aggressive? What the hell lol. I wonder if he snapped at some of the weird ass personal questions teams like to ask
I'm normally a pretty mellow dude in my personal life but if someone asked a question about one of my ex girlfriends I'll lose it too.
 

rossihunter2

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Moderator
Oh shit I didn’t hear about that... aggressive? What the hell lol. I wonder if he snapped at some of the weird ass personal questions teams like to ask

maybe but apparently he was confrontational and angry in interviews with multiple teams - i doubt they all asked inappropriate questions... unless they were all asking about the same specific incident (not that i know that one happened or not just guessing)
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
Looking into the polite combine thing, don’t know how to feel about it... seems like a few possibilities. One, he didn’t have any guidance going in and was genuinely shocked by the process, two, he is immature and has accountability issues(immature is one thing but lacking accountability is a big no no for harbaugh), three, he might be a lazy asshole who didn’t prep for the combine at all and bombed it only at a level that burfict has.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZachHeilprin/status/1102061569779945472?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed&ref_url=https://d-38421368034093380224.ampproject.net/1904021746450/frame.html

This is something I found, and the fact that he didn’t just say he was surprised by the interview process and move to the next subject is a little damning, BUT i will say the transcript is a lot worse than the interview, he seemed genuine and not aggressive or defensive in the press conference, just a little too damn talkative for the situation. The transcript made him sound like he was being mad defensive and bitter

Found a paraphrased quote from a team interview saying he’s never watched film on himself...

Yeah I might revise that third round pick lol
 

rossihunter2

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Moderator
Looking into the polite combine thing, don’t know how to feel about it... seems like a few possibilities. One, he didn’t have any guidance going in and was genuinely shocked by the process, two, he is immature and has accountability issues(immature is one thing but lacking accountability is a big no no for harbaugh), three, he might be a lazy asshole who didn’t prep for the combine at all and bombed it only at a level that burfict has.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZachHeilprin/status/1102061569779945472?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed&ref_url=https://d-38421368034093380224.ampproject.net/1904021746450/frame.html

This is something I found, and the fact that he didn’t just say he was surprised by the interview process and move to the next subject is a little damning, BUT i will say the transcript is a lot worse than the interview, he seemed genuine and not aggressive or defensive in the press conference, just a little too damn talkative for the situation. The transcript made him sound like he was being mad defensive and bitter

Found a paraphrased quote from a team interview saying he’s never watched film on himself...

Yeah I might revise that third round pick lol

i didnt watch pressers but i got a sense from multiple places that it was more than just that stuff - like the tone of his media appearances was pretty defensive and angry etc. and then the reports from team sources indicated he was quite antagonistic in interviews...

now that could well be the classic draft-season lies and misdirects but it seemed to be a pretty concerted thing
 

RaineV1

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It wouldn't surprise me if Polite bulked up for the combine and that messed up the times on his drills.
 
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