Signings, Cuts, Trades

[JO_75]

Trade for Kupp, sign Khalil Mack to solve our edge rushing problem. Work on extending Stanley, Hamilton and Linderbaum. Draft a Day 1 starter at Guard in Round 1. Get a veteran corner to replace Stephens, and our offseason is complete.

 

[Grim]

Trade for Kupp, sign Khalil Mack to solve our edge rushing problem. Work on extending Stanley, Hamilton and Linderbaum. Draft a Day 1 starter at Guard in Round 1. Get a veteran corner to replace Stephens, and our offseason is complete.

Going to need 2 Edge guys buddy. Just Mack isn’t enough

 

[Davesta]

Going to need 2 Edge guys buddy. Just Mack isn’t enough

Sign Mack. Draft Green. Super Bowl. Fuck Mahomes.

 

[Sandtown]

On the outside chance Cooper comes to Bmore I don’t see him needing to be what one would consider a WR3. He would immediately be the most accomplished WR, and best hands in the room. And IMO his size and skill set fits Lamar’s game and our offense much better than a burner would.

That's understandable but even Diontae Johnson was the most successful receiver the ravens had on the team so them trading for Kupp wouldn't be their first time getting an accomplished receiver but the difference would most likely be the ravens paying more and given up more for Kupp than they did with Johnson which in most cases would mean Kupp is starting and not as a number 3 wide receiver either .

After the season Bateman and Flowers had together last year I'm not really sure if it's fair to them to take a back seat to a accomplished veteran receiver that hasn't really been healthy since 2021 and has shown some decline in his game even against man coverage who will be 32 years old next season .I like Kupp but I think this team should continue to roll with their young receivers and focus on another position trade wise if possible.

I think a pure outside receiver with the ability to take the top off the defense would benefit this offense more. We all saw Lamar take a major leap as a passer last year and even his deep pass and passes outside numbers improved. This offense is just missing that one physical receiver that has the ability to take the top offense defense consistently. It only added to the ability to score and score in hurry which is what suits Todd Monken offense best given that he still sticks to his air raid offense roots which does focus on scoring and scoring fast by spreading defense out with speed

 

[OURavensFan]

I have to see Kelce’s face on msn when logging into vpn, just reminds me how disgusted I am at Mark Andrews

 

[QtR Nevermore]

I saw someone, somewhere, write something along of the lines of: “Zay is our YAC/horizontal guy, Bateman our vertical guy, and Kupp would be our reliable chain-mover”, and I loved that. I could be wrong but I don’t remember the last time we had an exceptional “chain-moving” WR with amazing hands since Steve Smith/Q/Mason.

Do we need a chain mover? We don't have any problem staying on the field. Lamar, the TEs and RBs all move the chains just fine. (Likely and Andrews both had much higher catch rates than Kupp last year too. )

McVay's no fool and he's willing to eat some cap to move Kupp on. Once Puka returned, they used Kupp in the same way we used Nelly - in the you-forgot-cover-this-guy role.

I just don't see why it would make sense giving up picks and cap to get an aging player who is less reliable than the TEs and less explosive than the WRs.

 

[Tank]

That's understandable but even Diontae Johnson was the most successful receiver the ravens had on the team so them trading for Kupp wouldn't be their first time getting an accomplished receiver but the difference would most likely be the ravens paying more and given up more for Kupp than they did with Johnson which in most cases would mean Kupp is starting and not as a number 3 wide receiver either .

After the season Bateman and Flowers had together last year I'm not really sure if it's fair to them to take a back seat to a accomplished veteran receiver that hasn't really been healthy since 2021 and has shown some decline in his game even against man coverage who will be 32 years old next season .I like Kupp but I think this team should continue to roll with their young receivers and focus on another position trade wise if possible.

I think a pure outside receiver with the ability to take the top off the defense would benefit this offense more. We all saw Lamar take a major leap as a passer last year and even his deep pass and passes outside numbers improved. This offense is just missing that one physical receiver that has the ability to take the top offense defense consistently. It only added to the ability to score and score in hurry which is what suits Todd Monken offense best given that he still sticks to his air raid offense roots which does focus on scoring and scoring fast by spreading defense out with speed

Kupp is a tons better WR than Johnson was or ever will be, and he's known as a team leader/player, not a diva head case weirdo. Johnson never even tried to learn the playbook! lol I can't see that comparison at all.

I understand your point about a deep threat, and somewhat agree, but I don't see us ever going to an "air raid" style offense, doesn't make sense for a team with what many consider the best running attack in the NFL. And IMO, while it might be sexy, it's not the way to consistently win, especially in the tournament.

While it's admittedly a longshot, I think at the right price and contract scenario Cooper would be perfect in this offense and shouldn't be passed up. He has some of the best hands in the league, is big and physical, and isn't afraid to go across the middle, Lamar's best area of the field. And he's had significant playoff success and experience that would be invaluable.

This convo reminds me of what some were saying about the thought of Henry coming to Bmore, saying he was a poor fit. That worked out pretty nicely, and I think Cooper would as well.

 

[Tank]

Do we need a chain mover? We don't have any problem staying on the field. Lamar, the TEs and RBs all move the chains just fine. (Likely and Andrews both had much higher catch rates than Kupp last year too. )

McVay's no fool and he's willing to eat some cap to move Kupp on. Once Puka returned, they used Kupp in the same way we used Nelly - in the you-forgot-cover-this-guy role.

I just don't see why it would make sense giving up picks and cap to get an aging player who is less reliable than the TEs and less explosive than the WRs.

I get that you think it would not be the right move, but you're severely underestimating Kupp and the impact he would have on any offense. It would seem that teams are lining up to get a chance at signing a guy that most characterize as a game changer, not a chain mover.

 

[JO_75]

First Myles Garrett, now Trey Hendrickson.

 

[JAAM]

First Myles Garrett, now Trey Hendrickson.

TJ Watt next please

 

[rmcjacket23]

First Myles Garrett, now Trey Hendrickson.

In a stroke of just brilliant prognostication here, you mean to tell me that the guy who led the NFL in sacks last year, who's entering the final year of his contract, scheduled to make $16M (after only making $15M last year) wants a raise or wants to be traded to a team that will get him a raise? Shocked I say. I would have never expected that.

 

[D1City55]

Really think that as more time goes by, that Ronnie's chances of leaving increases. Obviously it was make or break year with Ronnie since he's had issues with staying healthy, but at this point, teams are going to pony up top dollar for an elite pass blocking LT who's good at run blocking, even if he's 31. LT is a position where there is longevity so I don't think age will be a huge factor. The upcoming draft is LT heavy, but signing Ronnie allows you to take a swing at another position. I'm getting more concerned as days go back that he won't be coming back. I also think the teams like Rosengarten as a potential LT. I think there's a solid chance he stays, but I'm not as confident as I used to be.

 

[D1City55]

I don't think he'd be a great fit.

We don't want him taking targets away from Zay and Bateman, who threaten deeper these days. Then we've got Lamar, Henry, Andrews and Likely who all move the chains.

The extra receiver we need is someone to back up Zay and Bateman's roles, I think.

Yeah I disagree, he would be a great fit, especially in the slot. I don't really care even if he's taking slot snaps from Zay or Bateman. He's a short yardage WR who can play on the outside. If we can fit him into our cap that I would be ecstatic.

 

[QtR Nevermore]

Really think that as more time goes by, that Ronnie's chances of leaving increases. Obviously it was make or break year with Ronnie since he's had issues with staying healthy, but at this point, teams are going to pony up top dollar for an elite pass blocking LT who's good at run blocking, even if he's 31. LT is a position where there is longevity so I don't think age will be a huge factor. The upcoming draft is LT heavy, but signing Ronnie allows you to take a swing at another position. I'm getting more concerned as days go back that he won't be coming back. I also think the teams like Rosengarten as a potential LT. I think there's a solid chance he stays, but I'm not as confident as I used to be.

I think you're right. Ronnie said that staying in Baltimore his whole career was more important than money, which would have been great cause we were never going to win a bidding war but if that were to happen, it would probably happen early.

There are too many teams with too much cap space and LT needs and I can't really blame him if he wants a second massive contract.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

I think you're right. Ronnie said that staying in Baltimore his whole career was more important than money, which would have been great cause we were never going to win a bidding war but if that were to happen, it would probably happen early.

There are too many teams with too much cap space and LT needs and I can't really blame him if he wants a second massive contract.

Players talk that shit all the time and leave for an extra 5m in guarantees

 

[Deebo813]

Players talk that shit all the time and leave for an extra 5m in guarantees

5m in guarantees along with no state tax is a lot of money though. Now leaving bmore for NY just to get 5m in guarantees would be wild lol

 

[RavensMania]

Really think that as more time goes by, that Ronnie's chances of leaving increases. Obviously it was make or break year with Ronnie since he's had issues with staying healthy, but at this point, teams are going to pony up top dollar for an elite pass blocking LT who's good at run blocking, even if he's 31. LT is a position where there is longevity so I don't think age will be a huge factor. The upcoming draft is LT heavy, but signing Ronnie allows you to take a swing at another position. I'm getting more concerned as days go back that he won't be coming back. I also think the teams like Rosengarten as a potential LT. I think there's a solid chance he stays, but I'm not as confident as I used to be.

this draft isn't a really good draft for left tackles

 

[marklar]

Players talk that shit all the time and leave for an extra 5m in guarantees

I agree. And this is also why I do not buy the "Lamar forced us to sign Beckham" narrative. If EDC went to him and offered either 5M extra signing bonus and a cheap WR or Beckham, I think the likelihood of the former is pretty large

 

[QtR Nevermore]

I agree. And this is also why I do not buy the "Lamar forced us to sign Beckham" narrative. If EDC went to him and offered either 5M extra signing bonus and a cheap WR or Beckham, I think the likelihood of the former is pretty large

I don't know. I think the message that the Beckham signing sent to Lamar was pretty important. We believe in, and are willing to invest in, you as a passer. At the time he'd just come off two straight years of being run up the middle into injuries by Roman, as if he was a disposable piece of the offense. Lamar wanted to reach his potential.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

5m in guarantees along with no state tax is a lot of money though. Now leaving bmore for NY just to get 5m in guarantees would be wild lol

But I’m saying, mfs be doing exactly that.

Can’t hate on someone going and making another 5mil, but what I do hate on is using sentimental shit to set the stage for negotiations knowing damn well you’re all about that few extra mil, after you’ve already made tens of millions.