I thought he was only the run game coordinator
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Lamar Jackson
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allblackraven
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All 4 downs called by Ray.
Gotta put josh allen in there too.
Ellicottraven
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Imagine how many more TDs my kid may have scored if the fuckers had let him.
BoredMarine13
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If Lamar really threw in a fat dip he is officially winning a Super Bowl this year. My hero
redrum52
Hall of Famer
Didn't realize how many players did it
BoredMarine13
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I imagine with the hours of film study the guys run through some dip , gum, and sun flower seeds like they are going out of style
Shade_Raven
Practice Squad
Idk they keep begging man to stop throwing interceptions
I can give them good coaching but here is my thing: who is the second best player on the Bills? Do they have any other players who we would expect to legitimately make the pro bow(aka not because 6 others said no)?
Obviously it would be a shock if any of them made all pro, but there is a strong argument that there 2nd-5th best players would not be top 10 on this team.
That is a staggering lack of talent. Meanwhile the Bills are expected to make the playoffs and possibly win the division based purely on the QB. However outside of Josh Allen, I could argue they have a worse roster than the Patriots who will be lucky to win 4 games this year.
Apparently they voted on it at the start of December last year which explains a lot. It explains why Hill is 1, as he was on pace for 2k yards, why Hurts is so high (the collapse had not happened yet), and Mahomes looked ordinary until January.
OURavensFan
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This comment section, this is why it’s so painful we didn’t win it all. I know everyone has haters but it’s next fucking level with Lamar. Yea outrage porn but idc, I wanted to trigger these assholes and now they just double down
BoredMarine13
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Yea like it or not Lamar is currently on the same story arc as Dan Marino, SteveMcNair, McNabb, Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly ,Phillip Rivers etc etc …. Just really talented guys that couldn’t get over the hump…. Positive news is he’s got time and he’s in a well run organization. End of the day though none of the stats or MVPs really matter to the outside world without a SB. I think Ravens fans will have a different perspective , but not the rest of the league.
Somebody called him the russell westbrook of the nfl……………
JAAM
Hall of Famer
I mean……
drjohnnyfever
Pro Bowler
I'd gladly have him not be an MVP, but be part of a SB win. I'll take that every day and twice on Sundays.
I still have a hard time explaining away - to myself - the utter OFF collapses that occur in big games. I don't know the source of it - Lamar, coaching, or the other team being more prepared, but something has to give for Lamar to be perceived differently by anyone outside of Baltimore, for sure. And that perspective grows inch by inch with Ravens fans, I think, with every season we don't win it all.
gtalk12
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Our boy is big ticket. Not talking about him brings ratings down.
Pat, Jackson, and Dak (Cowboys) are the QBs you talk about when you have nothing else to talk about.
BoredMarine13
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I dont disagree with the MVP thoughts , but I hate the championship or bust mentality so many have with sports these days. My favorite team failing to win the title doesnt negate the teams accomplishments or the joy it brought me in a given year.
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
It does when they fail year after year after year for a decade or 2 when they had legitimate opportunities.
If you're the lions of the last 2 decades that's one thing. You're incompetent and perenially bad. But if you're us, where we should really have competed for like 3 superbowls in just the last 10 years and you've haven't even made it to 1, it's like what's going on?
There's really no good reason we aren't more successful. And that doesn't even mean won superbowls. But even making superbowls and making AFC championship in years we didn't.
drjohnnyfever
Pro Bowler
Well, we can't win every year, but we've been pretty close to getting to the last dance for most of the time Lamar has been here - at least when he's healthy. But let's be real too: Championships are everything.
BoredMarine13
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Well emotionally I agree with you but looking at it from a numbers standpoint always helps calm me down at seasons end. With 32 teams each team has a baseline 3% chance of winning. Lots of factors , random or controlled, raise or lower that but it helps put things into perspective…. Also that loss to the Chiefs didn’t take away the fun you had watching the boys drop 52 on the dolphins or stomp the 49ers on MNF. My second favorite season to date is still one of the most painful in 2008….