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2024 Training Camp

rossihunter2

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Per Jeff, it sounds like Faalele has been getting the 1st team reps at RG thus far.

Linderbaum said as much the other day
looks also like Vorhees is taking almost all the LG reps too

right now, looks like the 1s to start training camp are:

Stanley
Vorhees
Linderbaum
Faalele
Mekari

havent seen much evidence of Rosengarten taking the 1s reps at all

if that really is the starting 5 with Rosengarten starting the season as the backup RT, then got to think that Josh Jones is locked into a 53 man spot

the fact that Harbs has specifically said that he doesnt think they'll have sorted the starting OL group out by the first preseason game suggests to me that they need Vorhees and Faalele to prove it, but also want to keep the door open for Rosengarten to earn it and push Mekari back to a swing spot

also makes you wonder just how bad of an offseason person is ben cleveland because this dude puts out nothing but decent tape in relief or spot starts but cannot win a starting job to save his life during the offseason period
 

Simba

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Linderbaum said as much the other day
looks also like Vorhees is taking almost all the LG reps too

right now, looks like the 1s to start training camp are:

Stanley
Vorhees
Linderbaum
Faalele
Mekari

havent seen much evidence of Rosengarten taking the 1s reps at all

if that really is the starting 5 with Rosengarten starting the season as the backup RT, then got to think that Josh Jones is locked into a 53 man spot

the fact that Harbs has specifically said that he doesnt think they'll have sorted the starting OL group out by the first preseason game suggests to me that they need Vorhees and Faalele to prove it, but also want to keep the door open for Rosengarten to earn it and push Mekari back to a swing spot

also makes you wonder just how bad of an offseason person is ben cleveland because this dude puts out nothing but decent tape in relief or spot starts but cannot win a starting job to save his life during the offseason period
Vorhees in particular has apparently done everything right so far. Put in the work during his recovery both physically and in the film room. They've wanted him to win the job and it sounds like it would take a total collapse for him not get it.

Cleveland has to be one of the biggest enigmas out there. Everything I've seen is that the coaches just don't trust him. Like you said, he plays well, but apparently the inconsistent effort and play during everything but gameday just has him in a tough spot. Still not discounting the Ben Powers possibility here though - the guy that seemingly falls out of favor, but all along was the guy that was the real option if the ones you hope step up don't.
 

JAAM

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bate’s in mid season form baby
 

JoeyFlex5

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Linderbaum said as much the other day
looks also like Vorhees is taking almost all the LG reps too

right now, looks like the 1s to start training camp are:

Stanley
Vorhees
Linderbaum
Faalele
Mekari

havent seen much evidence of Rosengarten taking the 1s reps at all

if that really is the starting 5 with Rosengarten starting the season as the backup RT, then got to think that Josh Jones is locked into a 53 man spot

the fact that Harbs has specifically said that he doesnt think they'll have sorted the starting OL group out by the first preseason game suggests to me that they need Vorhees and Faalele to prove it, but also want to keep the door open for Rosengarten to earn it and push Mekari back to a swing spot

also makes you wonder just how bad of an offseason person is ben cleveland because this dude puts out nothing but decent tape in relief or spot starts but cannot win a starting job to save his life during the offseason period
Ben Cleveland is a lazy disinterested motherfucker. I’m done with him, he can put out decent tape but even the good reps are full of low effort and quitting before the whistle, you can’t trust him, if he gets enough Sunday reps eventually he’s gonna cause a serious fuck up just by not finishing plays
 

RavensMania

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Ben Cleveland is a lazy disinterested motherfucker. I’m done with him, he can put out decent tape but even the good reps are full of low effort and quitting before the whistle, you can’t trust him, if he gets enough Sunday reps eventually he’s gonna cause a serious fuck up just by not finishing plays
the guy just doesn't have it nor the want to have it.
 

UPennChem

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I believe Ben Cleveland is the guy. I don't think for one second Faalele is your starting RG. If Rosengarten is so far behind that Mekari is in line for your starting RT then I'm pretty sure Faalele would just be your starting RT and Mekari stays as your utility guy.

Even if they really did put Mekari there, I just can't imagine that Faalele is a legitimately better RG than Cleveland or even Sala.

When it comes time for preseason games, I think we'll see Cleveland is the best RG and he'll be the starter.
 

JoeyFlex5

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I believe Ben Cleveland is the guy. I don't think for one second Faalele is your starting RG. If Rosengarten is so far behind that Mekari is in line for your starting RT then I'm pretty sure Faalele would just be your starting RT and Mekari stays as your utility guy.

Even if they really did put Mekari there, I just can't imagine that Faalele is a legitimately better RG than Cleveland or even Sala.

When it comes time for preseason games, I think we'll see Cleveland is the best RG and he'll be the starter.
I highly doubt they’re giving the first team guard reps all training camp to a guy they want/expect to start at RT, especially a guy who’s got like 5 starts to his name. Mekari, sure, but faalele I would think is repping at RT if the coaches see him starting there, bad idea to not let the dude practice his position for his first season starting
 

Simba

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I believe Ben Cleveland is the guy. I don't think for one second Faalele is your starting RG. If Rosengarten is so far behind that Mekari is in line for your starting RT then I'm pretty sure Faalele would just be your starting RT and Mekari stays as your utility guy.

Even if they really did put Mekari there, I just can't imagine that Faalele is a legitimately better RG than Cleveland or even Sala.

When it comes time for preseason games, I think we'll see Cleveland is the best RG and he'll be the starter.
I think you're both right and wrong on this in my opinion. I think Cleveland is the guy they know what they have, and if they have to start him when the season rolls around, so be it. I think they want someone else to win the job though, and Faalele seems to be the top candidate as of now.

Ben Powers all over again - Cleveland may not rep there or look like the presumptive starter, but may end up being the guy if no one else steps up. Right now, it's time to see if anyone else steps up.
 

rossihunter2

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Vorhees in particular has apparently done everything right so far. Put in the work during his recovery both physically and in the film room. They've wanted him to win the job and it sounds like it would take a total collapse for him not get it.

Cleveland has to be one of the biggest enigmas out there. Everything I've seen is that the coaches just don't trust him. Like you said, he plays well, but apparently the inconsistent effort and play during everything but gameday just has him in a tough spot. Still not discounting the Ben Powers possibility here though - the guy that seemingly falls out of favor, but all along was the guy that was the real option if the ones you hope step up don't.

if that was the case though, it would have been faalele or sala mostly with the 1s in OTAs and he'd have taken over by now in camp

i cant really imagine faalele at guard but that looks like what's happening

based on OTAs i'd have said the most likely starting 5 was: Stanley, Jones, Lindy, Cleveland, Faalele
based on camp so far, looks like: Stanley, Vorhees, Lindy, Faalele, Mekari

think mekari and rosengarten might end up being a bit like james hurst and orlando brown during that 1st season... might be that it takes rosengarten half the season to take over that starting spot and push mekari back into the preferred 6th OL role
 
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