that's what im wondering - he was quiet to begin last year but then took over down the stretch - his 8 sacks all came in the last 11 games of the year
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that's what im wondering - he was quiet to begin last year but then took over down the stretch - his 8 sacks all came in the last 11 games of the year
He started off really slow last year after adjusting to his weight gain, them came on strong the final 10 games. Hopefully he can do that again. Yes some of his sacks were coverage sacks, but every pass rusher has coverage sacks. That being said, I don’t think he should be starting.
from filmstudy on twitter:
This should make some Ravens fans happy. They held Ben to 72.4 last night without resorting to numbers in the pass rush. Steelers averaged just 4.2 YPP with 3 or 4 rushing and 10.1 YPP with 5+ rushing. 4-man pressure is a formula to beat the best QBs.
I attach this graphic for everyone's enjoyment...
This should make some Ravens fans happy. They held Ben to 72.4 last night without resorting to numbers in the pass rush. Steelers averaged just 4.2 YPP with 3 or 4 rushing and 10.1 YPP with 5+ rushing. 4-man pressure is a formula to beat the best QBs.
I attach this graphic for everyone's enjoyment...
JoeyFlex5
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How are the Steelers not in that red list lolfrom filmstudy on twitter:
This should make some Ravens fans happy. They held Ben to 72.4 last night without resorting to numbers in the pass rush. Steelers averaged just 4.2 YPP with 3 or 4 rushing and 10.1 YPP with 5+ rushing. 4-man pressure is a formula to beat the best QBs.
I attach this graphic for everyone's enjoyment...
Edit: thts right, they played Fitzpatrick
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Oldfaithful
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I think @Edgar gets it right here. Tyus Bowser can be put on the edge in certain situations but he needs to be on the field more doing other things. Using him almost exclusively as a situational pass rusher is well... A waste of his talents. I could see him getting five sacks on a season because of it, but we need to use him everywhere.
He didn't look like a bust last season at all. Hell, he looked damn good at times. I genuinely believe he's not another "second round bust" like Correa. Hell, I don't think Maxx is either(seriously, dude is way better than his stat line indicates). we just need to use him correctly.
JoeyFlex5
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Agreed on all fronts. Bowser showed more in extremely limited snaps last year than Correa showed his whole career here. He was legitimately good in coverage and surprisingly effective as a pass rusher last year. He was injured the whole preseason, and is being used out of position, and seems to be playing timid. I think he feels pressure from Tim Williams honestly and with him hitting the doghouse last year he’s scared to make a mistake. But of course the real issue is he’s being used wrong, just something I think may add to the problem because he’s not just playing like he’s out of position, but he’s also playing timid
T-2nd in the NFL in sacks with 28
but this:
5th lowest % of pressure on opposing qbs in the nfl
what a disparity (im being obtuse this mainly all comes down to the titans game - without those 11 sacks we'd be T-27th in the NFL in sack total)
but this:
5th lowest % of pressure on opposing qbs in the nfl
what a disparity (im being obtuse this mainly all comes down to the titans game - without those 11 sacks we'd be T-27th in the NFL in sack total)
RaineV1
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Tim Williams is the only decent speed rusher we have and he gets double teamed. We have no one else that can get quick pressure. Henry possibly could, bit of course he's injured. We need to grab a good Front 7 guy in the draft. Derrick Brown or Montez Sweat would be great.
Williams has been inactive because of injuries recently too which leaves us with T Sizzle, Matt Judon (who has seriously underwhelmed this year), ZDS (who has done well in many cases but his sacks have mostly come in cleanup type situations), Tyus (who has been a huge let down)
Ravensnation5220
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I really like Sweat. Kid is a stud
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
I keep telling everybody - Quinnen Williams
We need internal pressure from a guy that constantly commands double teams and beats them most of the time, while attacking the ball. He might be the most impressive DL player since Donald.
the more i see him the more i think he could be the guy (even though id not be so keen on going defence in round 1 again)
Ravensnation5220
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We need interior oline. Period
Always depends on the player and I’d normally agree
But if a guy like quinnen Williams is around when we pick (depending on where we pick) it’ll be difficult to pass him up
Grim
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We need interior OL but we can get those in the 3rd IMO. I also think we only need 1 because honestly it’s very unusual for 2 rookie OL to immediately start and do well on any team. It’s just a big adjustment.
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
There is no reason to force the need, particularly in early rounds, if better player is available, no matter the position.
This is how we ended up where we are now, since the Elam/Brown picks in 2013.
Justdewinit20
Veteran
No way he gets out of the top 5
Justdewinit20
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I’d rather go Brian Burns or Jachai Polite. Burns a bit more polished right now, but Polite is just an athletic freak.
TheCity5
MVP
Damn that’s awful. Smfh, I don’t feel good about this defense towards the end of the year because they do not have good match ups in their favor. The offense are going to have to play out of their minds soon.T-2nd in the NFL in sacks with 28
but this:
5th lowest % of pressure on opposing qbs in the nfl
what a disparity (im being obtuse this mainly all comes down to the titans game - without those 11 sacks we'd be T-27th in the NFL in sack total)