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2025 NFL Draft Gameday Thread

What position will the Ravens select with their first pick in the draft?


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We haven't treated the last few drafts this way and I agree it's time we do. I don't mind that we pick so many project players, but I do mind because the majority of them don't work out. Obajo hasn't added shit along with some others and I get the allure of having long term payoff guys 3 years from now, but our window is only going to get smaller and smaller. Who knows how many years we have left of fully dynamic Lamar with current speed and agility. We need guys who can help us win THIS YEAR before this mini rebuild we will be sent through.
TBF Ojabo was supposed to be pro-ready after recovering from injury
 
One guy who I just have never gotten on board with is Shemar Stewart. I just don’t see it on tape, legitimately idk what he even does well, seems like he’s not impacting the game much at all.

like the scary thing with shemar is that his instincts aren't amazing

i see reps where he wins with power, wins with burst, even some where he wins with bend, but he's never been great at finishing or finding the ball (hence why he doesnt have the production) - he can beat the guy across from him and not affect the play

and the scary thing is that you don't know whether he can learn those things and you get to grade the flashes

in this class, he's still a top 20 player based on the traits and the wins on the tape - i'd be really excited if he fell to 27 and we drafted him because there's so much upside and potential to be excited about - but i'd also be nervous about the range of outcomes too...
 
Surprised you have Zabel in there. What do people see in this guy? Small college, average size, not a LT prospect... I'm no draftnik so I'd love to know.

projected inside with some outside versatility but it's being assumed he'll be a guard and maybe even a C in the pros

plays with great pad level and leverage, great feet along with the core strength and balance to hold up in pass pro and create an effective pocket - gives up a short corner at tackle but that's part of why he's being projected inside

he's aggressive with a finisher's mentality but doesn't over-extend himself to open up to counters
 
As we get close to that start, my source is now saying the same thing as Tyler has been indicating - Booker is who they expect but not necessarily who they take pending how the board falls. They like Starks a lot but the belief is that he won't be there. May be a debate if he is there but they also do really like some mid-round S options.
 
I want to be on the record here that I think the Titans are about to make a very bad pick. I think in 3 years we are going to be looking back and saying the best player in this draft was Carter, and it wont be close. The fact that nobody thinks in 3 years it will be Ward and that they are about to take a QB that nobody thinks has a ceiling beyond "15th-20th best starter in football" is what makes this upcoming pick a bad pick for the Titans
 
idk about pro-ready
dude couldn't edge set or run block at all

he showed a decent amount as a pass rusher but not like he was a developed pass rush technician either
Wasn't he projected to be top 15 before the injury? Isn't that why everyone loved the value by the Ravens? Obviously the NFL is filled with top 15 pass rushers who didn't work out but I remember that being the story around him.
 
I want to be on the record here that I think the Titans are about to make a very bad pick. I think in 3 years we are going to be looking back and saying the best player in this draft was Carter, and it wont be close. The fact that nobody thinks in 3 years it will be Ward and that they are about to take a QB that nobody thinks has a ceiling beyond "15th-20th best starter in football" is what makes this upcoming pick a bad pick for the Titans

there are lots of people projecting him as having the ability to be a lot better than the 15th-20th best starter in the league
but that's why he's the only one going high, because he's the only one with that ceiling and any chance of getting there anytime soon
 
Wasn't he projected to be top 15 before the injury? Isn't that why everyone loved the value by the Ravens? Obviously the NFL is filled with top 15 pass rushers who didn't work out but I remember that being the story around him.

probably more like top 20-25 on the consensus board
but yeah a great value where the ravens got him
 
I want to be on the record here that I think the Titans are about to make a very bad pick. I think in 3 years we are going to be looking back and saying the best player in this draft was Carter, and it wont be close. The fact that nobody thinks in 3 years it will be Ward and that they are about to take a QB that nobody thinks has a ceiling beyond "15th-20th best starter in football" is what makes this upcoming pick a bad pick for the Titans
I think he'll be good but what do I, or anyone else, know about QB evaluations?
 
idk about pro-ready
dude couldn't edge set or run block at all

he showed a decent amount as a pass rusher but not like he was a developed pass rush technician either
I cant speak to actual talent but I thought he was supposed to be too 10 or 15 before he got hurt?
 
there are lots of people projecting him as having the ability to be a lot better than the 15th-20th best starter in the league
but that's why he's the only one going high, because he's the only one with that ceiling and any chance of getting there anytime soon
Every draft report I read on him, and I have had a slow week this week so I read a lot of them, always say he could be a starter in the league or a solid player. None of them say he is going to be a star. None of them say they think he will be making pro bowls.

Meanwhile I read the projections on Carter and its littered with "future all pro". Hunter is a weird one nobody seems as high on Ward as they are on Carter. When I look for people ranking Ward as a prospect, I think I have seen a couple have him 8th which is again not great for the "top pick" and I have seen several with him in the teens and one even lower.
 
I think he'll be good but what do I, or anyone else, know about QB evaluations?
True about the latter point but I do recognize that everytime we are told it is a weak class for position "x" it always results in some players at that position being overdrafted and honestly I cannot remember the last time it worked out for the reaching team. Conversely when we are told it is a "deep class at x" just picking x asap seems to work out a lot more often than not.
 
Every draft report I read on him, and I have had a slow week this week so I read a lot of them, always say he could be a starter in the league or a solid player. None of them say he is going to be a star. None of them say they think he will be making pro bowls.

Meanwhile I read the projections on Carter and its littered with "future all pro". Hunter is a weird one nobody seems as high on Ward as they are on Carter. When I look for people ranking Ward as a prospect, I think I have seen a couple have him 8th which is again not great for the "top pick" and I have seen several with him in the teens and one even lower.
Most experts didn't see star potential in Stroud or Daniels and they just had the two best rookie QB seasons since Marino. Lamar, Mahomes and Allen weren't the first QBs in their drafts.

QB is so hard to predict that I think you've just got to take one you think is good and hope it turns out better than that.
 
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