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OURavensFan said:
I just don’t think Huntley is any better, we’re screwed without Lamar
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I would think this is obvious at this point. Huntley sucks, and Rush sucks. I thought Rush would play better, but he played worse.

The comical thing to me is that I've never seen a fanbase care so much about shit that doesn't matter in my life. Huntley vs Rush doesn't matter. I don't give a fuck which one you pick. They both suck, and we're losing against any non-dogshit team with either at QB.
Similarly, I think Keaton Mitchell is totally irrelevant. People are hellbent on suggesting that the offense is somehow a juggernaut if he's out there. It couldn't matter less.
 
Simba said:
I think Rush is probably fine on a bunch of other teams in the league. The fit here was always questionable and it looks like that's rearing it's head now unfortunately. Looks like a mistake you're just going to have to write off at some point.
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Think he just needs better pass protection from the offensive line. Monken probably should have used Playactions and etc to get him more in a rhythm
 
Sandtown said:
Think he just needs better pass protection from the offensive line. Monken probably should have used Playactions and etc to get him more in a rhythm
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I like Rush as a passer a shit ton more than Huntley. I think the question becomes the fit in the offense. While I think the current year offense is much more "pro style" that actually fits better for a pocket passer than it ever has, I do think with the issues with the Oline some mobility is required. Which Rush has none.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I would think this is obvious at this point. Huntley sucks, and Rush sucks. I thought Rush would play better, but he played worse.

The comical thing to me is that I've never seen a fanbase care so much about shit that doesn't matter in my life. Huntley vs Rush doesn't matter. I don't give a fuck which one you pick. They both suck, and we're losing against any non-dogshit team with either at QB.
Similarly, I think Keaton Mitchell is totally irrelevant. People are hellbent on suggesting that the offense is somehow a juggernaut if he's out there. It couldn't matter less.
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Only thing I can think of with Keaton and is that maybe he can break one loose with his speed. This O-line can't block consistently and crumbles at key moments even when they do well.
 
Sandtown said:
Think he just needs better pass protection from the offensive line. Monken probably should have used Playactions and etc to get him more in a rhythm
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Like Jacket said, I just don’t think he’s a fit. It seems they’ve really dumbed down their offense just to try to make him functional and that’s still failing. Just a miss. Rush isn’t good here. He may be better off elsewhere.
 
Simba said:
Like Jacket said, I just don’t think he’s a fit. It seems they’ve really dumbed down their offense just to try to make him functional and that’s still failing. Just a miss. Rush isn’t good here. He may be better off elsewhere.
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The only "perk" to Rush is that it appears NFL teams are actually mildly respectful of the fact that he can, and will, throw it down field. I think that had at least partially to do with why the running game was effective yesterday.

I think most NFL teams, when attempting to defend Huntley, would put 11 defenders within five yards of the LOS, on every snap, and say "go ahead Tyler, I fucking dare you to throw the ball". And I don't think the read option is effective when there's 10 guys defending the run game.
I think Huntley's effectiveness in the 4th quarter, especially on scrambles, had everything to do with the style of D the Rams are playing up 14 in the 4th quarter. They'll let you run all you want between the 20s. Then the field shortens, and all of the sudden problems arise. Not surprising.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I would think this is obvious at this point. Huntley sucks, and Rush sucks. I thought Rush would play better, but he played worse.

The comical thing to me is that I've never seen a fanbase care so much about shit that doesn't matter in my life. Huntley vs Rush doesn't matter. I don't give a fuck which one you pick. They both suck, and we're losing against any non-dogshit team with either at QB.
Similarly, I think Keaton Mitchell is totally irrelevant. People are hellbent on suggesting that the offense is somehow a juggernaut if he's out there. It couldn't matter less.
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I thought Rush could win a game like this where a lot of breaks went our way. I guess not
 
Sandtown said:
Think he just needs better pass protection from the offensive line. Monken probably should have used Playactions and etc to get him more in a rhythm
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Henry was cooking, I don’t think we did a single play action pass on 1st down with him. That would be my main complaint with Monken. That said tho, Rush was god awful.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
The only "perk" to Rush is that it appears NFL teams are actually mildly respectful of the fact that he can, and will, throw it down field. I think that had at least partially to do with why the running game was effective yesterday.

I think most NFL teams, when attempting to defend Huntley, would put 11 defenders within five yards of the LOS, on every snap, and say "go ahead Tyler, I fucking dare you to throw the ball". And I don't think the read option is effective when there's 10 guys defending the run game.
I think Huntley's effectiveness in the 4th quarter, especially on scrambles, had everything to do with the style of D the Rams are playing up 14 in the 4th quarter. They'll let you run all you want between the 20s. Then the field shortens, and all of the sudden problems arise. Not surprising.
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Yeah to be clear, I don't think Huntley is some sudden answer either. I think both QB options are bad and we have to live with that. You have Rush as a non-fit with some awful decision making, and then you have Huntley who is a little bit more dynamic but lacks the ability/desire to push the ball down the field. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. The QB position is going to suck either way until 8 is back.
 
Tank said:
I think most teams are screwed without their starting QB, it's not just a Ravens thing.
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I think there are two teams specifically that this applies to one being the Ravens.

Something to consider

Brock Purdy and Jayden Daniels went down with injuries and their teams have found both ways to score and win in their absence. The Ravens have averaged 6 points a game without Lamar in 2 games. Even the Bengals scored 17 a game without Burrow (although they have had more games)
 
Bama Ravens said:
At the core of our issues is the simple fact that we are bad up front on both sides of the ball. Until we take some major steps in the right direction there, I don’t see us making substantial, lasting improvements.
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Yep.
 
Bama Ravens said:
At the core of our issues is the simple fact that we are bad up front on both sides of the ball. Until we take some major steps in the right direction there, I don’t see us making substantial, lasting improvements.
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It's never changed since football has been a professional sport. Most games are won/lost at the LOS.
 
gtalk12 said:
I think there are two teams specifically that this applies to one being the Ravens.

Something to consider

Brock Purdy and Jayden Daniels went down with injuries and their teams have found both ways to score and win in their absence. The Ravens have averaged 6 points a game without Lamar in 2 games. Even the Bengals scored 17 a game without Burrow (although they have had more games)
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So I overall agree with the premise, though few things I'd say:
1. Mac Jones >>>>>> Huntley or Rush. And Kyle Shanahan >>>> Todd Monken. We all know this. I think the 49ers have struggled on defense quite a bit with their injuries. Yes, that team is coached significantly better than the Ravens are.
2. In regards to WAS, I think contextually I'd say that playing HOU and LAR defenses (both of which are very strong) isn't the same as playing LV and ATL defenses. I'd have definitely liked to have seen what this offense, without Lamar, would have looked like against CHI and MIA, rather than HOU or LA.
There were things to like yesterday. ~300 yards of offense without Lamar is pretty strong. We dominated time of possession, and we were in the red zone three times. The obvious problems... turnovers (both by the QB and by your stud players), penalties and lack of finish in the red zone.

I think against HOU we were offensively inept. I don't think we were offensively inept yesterday.
 
gtalk12 said:
I think there are two teams specifically that this applies to one being the Ravens.

Something to consider

Brock Purdy and Jayden Daniels went down with injuries and their teams have found both ways to score and win in their absence. The Ravens have averaged 6 points a game without Lamar in 2 games. Even the Bengals scored 17 a game without Burrow (although they have had more games)
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Man, skins really did well bringing in Marcus. He's a starter on many teams.
I stumbled across an article that was saying Mariota will be the next Steelers QB. That would suck for us.
 
You guys may hate me for saying this but I still believe you can rally and make the playoffs. Your schedule is easy after the bye.
 
Truth said:
Would love to see us trade for Jaelan Phillips. He looks like he's rounding into form and would be worth either renting or paying long-term. The Dolphins will be cash strapped again next season, so perhaps this is a viable move for both sides.
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I think it was him that whiffed on the surefire game-ending sack on Herbert, wasn't it? If so, he'd fit right in with all of the almost sacks we had in the last 6-7 years or so.
 
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