And the thing for Washington is every single year that they wait and tag him, they just reset the yearly average salary he's going to ask Washington for.
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yeah kyle shanahan has always expressed his admiration for jimmy g which is part of the reason why the trade for him made a lot of sense
and the reason i dont think the franchise scenario could happen on both sides is because the 9ers can leverage it to get a better deal out of the redskins because of how ridiculous the tag price is on kirk cousins next year vs on garropolo - as soon as the tag gets put on cousins, his agent wont be interested in working out a long term deal because he gets the boon of being the agent of the first guy in nfl history to earn $30 mill in a year (and its kirk cousins not aaron rodgers) and kirk cousins gets the boon of earning $30m in one single year with no backloaded money or anything - the actual mode of franchising the players to be traded involves making them an unattractive player to trade for and also disincentivises either player actually signing a long term contract...
allblackraven
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Now, should I ask obvious question?
id love it for him to spite them and go to a team with great surrounding talent and go there for $20 mill a year because washington's paid him so much money that he doesnt need to be the highest paid player in the league anymore lol - id love it for his sake (financially) if bruce allen fucks up and tags him again for that enormous money and then he leaves the next year
what's the obvious question?
To be fair, Washington HAD really great supporting talent, but when you're paying out the ass for your quarterback, you kinda can't invest too much into great receivers or you begin to bleed out at every other position.
Ravens fans should know about this pretty well.
He gets $10M in year two if he doesn't get cut... >.>
allblackraven
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If you had to, would you rather carry Kirk's 30mil cap hit or Joe's 25mil?
Can I take neither...?
allblackraven
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That's the obvious answer but say you had the choice of just those 2.
So, can I take Cousins and then trade him to a willing partner like the Browns or Jags?
if nothing changes then those contracts both give you an out next year so it doesnt really matter which one you take because you wont win that year with them and you can jettison the next offseason
if we have to keep them short-term then im taking joe's (slightly) less debilitating cap hit
if long term im taking cousins because he's younger and played better more recently and can renegotiate next offseason
allblackraven
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Yes but that's not fair, since with the other choice you wouldn't be likely to find the willing partner I think
That's why I asked about Cousins and not Joe...
34m for 3rd yr straight year. I believe they can trade him to the Niners and they would take on the salary. Then the new team could work out a deal that has already been worked out. Atleast the parameters would already have been discussed.
Multiple teams have traded franchises players. It’s how Cassell was traded to the Chiefs and how the Vikings got Jared Allen.
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problem is those guys didnt have 3 years worth of multipliers on their franchise tags
Yes but once traded they can rework the deal to a normal 5 yr deal. Assuming they can fit the 34 m under the cap.
the problem is though that cousins doesnt need to sign that deal unless he's getting around 30m a year which is crazy money for him with the salary where it is - he could literally just not sign the contract that year and then sign an almost identical one the next offseason
i also dont think the 9ers would risk bringing in a guy who has now not signed a long term deal 2 years in a row (albeit its not entirely on cousins)
It’s why the parameters should be worked out first. Then franchise or transition tag just for the sake of trading. I don’t think it will happen, but it’s a possibility.
i suppose - but because legally they cant sign it until after the trade deal is worked out, there's nothing actually stopping cousins from reneging on whatever they agree beforehand - at best its a verbal agreement/handshake