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DeVito52
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Stop. Seattle wanted to bring him in but he said he wouldn’t stop kneeling so they changed their mind.
If anything, that makes Kaep a moron. It proves there is no collusion. Teams have the right to not sign him. He’s more interested in being an activist than a football player, that’s fine. But don’t cry about collusion when all you have to do is not kneel to have a job. Fucking idiot.
allblackraven
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It also gives him some ammo in legal proceedings - there is now clearly a team that refused to sign him because of his political views.
He is a moron for standing up for what he believes in.. lmao never heard of that before. Guess we just see things differently.
Tbh i dnt care if he never plays again. If it was me i can live with the fact that the reason im unemployed is because i stood up for what i believe in. Respect to Kap. If this was cam newton, cam wouldve been stood up and wrote a 3 page apology to the media for kneeling lol
DeVito52
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They’re a private organization, they don’t have to sign a player if they think he will cause distractions. It’s not because of his political views as much as it is his outspokenness of it being bad for business.
His political views don’t mean shit in the NFL. If I were to go to my job and cause distractions and lose my business money do you know what would happen? I’d be fired. Do you know what would happen if I applied for a job and they turned me down because I’d lose them money and be a distraction and be bad for business? I wouldn’t be hired and there wouldn’t be shit I could do about it. If you want to be employed by someone you have to follow their rules. Give me a break.
DeVito52
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Only if he wants a job in the NFL. Kudos to him for standing up for what he believes in. But don’t cry about it when a private organization doesn’t sign you. They have the right not to.
I agree, but why are others mad about it? Why does he have to stand up and pledge on something thats clearly a lie in his eyes? america has become very sensitive. The fact that he is unemployed is proving his argument
Im not even mad that the owners wont sign him im more disappointed in the fans
but i still dont understand why him campaigning on his own time is (seemingly also) such a problem - the only "legitimate" issue seems to be that he kneels for the national anthem - i still really dont understand why that was ever a problem in the first place - and the nfl has turned it into a bigger problem by making it a problem in the first place
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allblackraven
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And he has the right to challenge the legality of it.
I don't want to turn this into another debate on selective upholding of constitutional rights in US but you cannot tell me there isn't a whole heap of hypocrisy around Kaepernick's situation.
I draw the line here, not going to discus it any longer.
lmao this is perfect
DeVito52
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The NFL only made it a problem because god knows how many fans had a problem with it. I don’t really care, I may disagree with him about the kneeling but I don’t care if he kneels. I might think of it as being disrespectful but if he wants to be disrespectful it’s none of my business. I just want to watch damn football.
i guess i just dont understand who it is he's disrespecting by kneeling - it's not like its an offensive gesture - its just a different one - and its not like hes kneeling during the football either and interrupting the game - he's kneeling during the national anthem before a football game (which is a weird tradition anyway given that in no other countries are club sports pre-empted by a national anthem) - if the nfl really didnt like it then, much like streakers/idiots on the field (who are great fun most of the time and definitely interrupt the football), they wouldnt broadcast it to the nation they'd simply not show the kneeling and undermine the protest that way - the nfl created this "problem" by pointing it out and making it a problem
DeVito52
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It’s not a weird tradition. It’s having pride and respect for the greatest country in the world. I mean no offense by this whatsoever but I don’t expect you to understand if you’re not an American. It’s just our culture.
Now in terms of it being disrespectful, he’s kneeling in protest, not just as another gesture.
Some people take that as a protest against police brutality, and that’s fine, but they don’t like him disrespecting our national anthem. Protest police brutality in another way.
I’ve seen veterans say they don’t care, they’ve fought for his freedom to protest. And I’ve seen veterans very upset because they take it personally.
But like I said, he can do what he wants, I don’t care. I just want to watch football. But he can not do what he wants and expect no repercussions. The NFL is gonna side with the fans, and the fans don’t want players being disrespectful towards their country.
but this is what i dont get - why does protest=disrespect... but anyway we're getting bogged down with this in the wrong thread and should probably move on given that nothing much new is happening with this story anymore and likely wont for a while
JO_75
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In regards to the football aspect of things.... In the 2016 offseason, the Broncos made a deal with the 49ers to acquire him. Kaepernick REFUSED to take a pay cut in order for the trade to successfully go through. When he didn't, Broncos backed out. He literally TURNED AWAY a deal that would have made him the starting QB. Don't know why this isn't talked about more.
RaineV1
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He's had chances to get a job in the NFL. He'd be the backup for the Ravens if his girlfriend hadn't of ruined that. And other teams would have considered him too. But he expects to get paid starting money, and to get handed the starting job. It's not going to happen.