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Signings, Cuts, Trades

UPennChem said:
We can definitely afford him both this year and going forward. This year he's only getting paid 1m. Earlier in the offseason I got yelled at rmcjacket for wishing we could make a trade for him lol. I was joking at that time because of course why would they trade him after just signing him, but nows a different story. This season is in the trash, coach is fired. If you're going full rebuild you might think about it
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You can't afford him beyond 2022 until Lamar signs an extension.

OR, you do afford him beyond 2022, but Marcus Peters isn't a Raven in 2022.
 
Just for the sake of entertaining this mild charade, here's the breakdown of the three players for Carolina who "could be" targets...

DJ Moore:
Ravens would be taking on less than $1M in comp/cap hit for 2022, since his base salary is the veteran minimum. Cash/cap wise, easily affordable in 2022.
Issue starts in 2023. He has an almost $20M base salary, which is fully guaranteed, which would be the cap hit. Ravens have no mechanism whatsoever to afford that cap hit unless Lamar signs an extension beforehand. Even if they restructured the deal to create cap space, he's still owed almost $50M over the next three years, and kicking the can down the road wouldn't be advisable, again, until Lamar signs an extension.

Basically, barring an extension from Lamar before trading for him, IF you did trade for him, he's a rental that you would then have to flip in the offseason if you can't sign Lamar.

The downside for the Panthers is that a) they save practically no cap space this season by trading him and b) they take on a $14.6M dead money hit next year the second they move him.

Robbie Anderson:
Same as Moore in terms of 2022 impact. He's extremely afford comp/cash wise, at less than $1M. He's got a veteran minimum base salary.
2023 he's due $12M in salary and bonuses (none is guaranteed, however), which would be his cap hit. He would require an extension or paycut to lower that.
Similar to Moore, a trade at this juncture gains practically no cap space for the Panthers, and carries a $9.7M dead money cap hit in 2023.

I think Anderson getting traded makes all the sense in the world, though I don't really like him that much at $12M next year.

Brian Burns:
Ironically, for 2022, he's the most "expensive" of the three players in terms of cash/cap. He would cost between $1-1.5M, depending on when the trade is executed. Obviously dirt cheap.
2023 is a problem. He's had his 5th year option exercised, which means we inherit that. It's locked at $16M. We certainly can't afford that next year, again, without a Lamar extension.
We could look to sign him to a long term extension to lower that hit, but that's easier said than done.

Of the three, I think he may be the least likely to end up here, mostly because I think any team acquiring him needs to have an extension in place before they do it.
 
The one trade I'd like to revisit, as long as it didn't cost us much, would be Denzel Mims. I was a big fan of Mims in the 2020 draft and feel he just needs a change of scenery. He did have a decent rookie campaign and probably could be had for a day 3 pick.
 
RavensMania said:
The one trade I'd like to revisit, as long as it didn't cost us much, would be Denzel Mims. I was a big fan of Mims in the 2020 draft and feel he just needs a change of scenery. He did have a decent rookie campaign and probably could be had for a day 3 pick.
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He's not even active. Like I get he's depth in case someone gets injured but why kind of GM doesn't recoup a 5th for a player they are planning to give 0 snaps?
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Just for the sake of entertaining this mild charade, here's the breakdown of the three players for Carolina who "could be" targets...

DJ Moore:
Ravens would be taking on less than $1M in comp/cap hit for 2022, since his base salary is the veteran minimum. Cash/cap wise, easily affordable in 2022.
Issue starts in 2023. He has an almost $20M base salary, which is fully guaranteed, which would be the cap hit. Ravens have no mechanism whatsoever to afford that cap hit unless Lamar signs an extension beforehand. Even if they restructured the deal to create cap space, he's still owed almost $50M over the next three years, and kicking the can down the road wouldn't be advisable, again, until Lamar signs an extension.

Basically, barring an extension from Lamar before trading for him, IF you did trade for him, he's a rental that you would then have to flip in the offseason if you can't sign Lamar.

The downside for the Panthers is that a) they save practically no cap space this season by trading him and b) they take on a $14.6M dead money hit next year the second they move him.

Robbie Anderson:
Same as Moore in terms of 2022 impact. He's extremely afford comp/cash wise, at less than $1M. He's got a veteran minimum base salary.
2023 he's due $12M in salary and bonuses (none is guaranteed, however), which would be his cap hit. He would require an extension or paycut to lower that.
Similar to Moore, a trade at this juncture gains practically no cap space for the Panthers, and carries a $9.7M dead money cap hit in 2023.

I think Anderson getting traded makes all the sense in the world, though I don't really like him that much at $12M next year.

Brian Burns:
Ironically, for 2022, he's the most "expensive" of the three players in terms of cash/cap. He would cost between $1-1.5M, depending on when the trade is executed. Obviously dirt cheap.
2023 is a problem. He's had his 5th year option exercised, which means we inherit that. It's locked at $16M. We certainly can't afford that next year, again, without a Lamar extension.
We could look to sign him to a long term extension to lower that hit, but that's easier said than done.

Of the three, I think he may be the least likely to end up here, mostly because I think any team acquiring him needs to have an extension in place before they do it.
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If teams know we can’t pay him could we even trade him, or if we cut him do we still have to pay the cap hit?
 
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lmao im kidding don't kill me
 
OURavensFan said:
If teams know we can’t pay him could we even trade him, or if we cut him do we still have to pay the cap hit?
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Moore you basically couldn't cut after this season. His nearly $20M base salary for 2023 is fully guaranteed. You could trade him to another team, but no chance you'd get the same return value as what you gave up to get him. In short, that's not happening.
Burns is same. His 5th year option has been exercised, and so his 2023 salary of $16M is fully guaranteed.

Anderson you could do whatever you want. He's due about $11M next year in bonuses and salary, but none of it is guaranteed. Could theoretically acquire him as a "rental" and then cut or trade him in the offseason.
 
UPennChem said:
He's not even active. Like I get he's depth in case someone gets injured but why kind of GM doesn't recoup a 5th for a player they are planning to give 0 snaps?
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Maybe just maybe nobody wants him like that..........

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Deebo813 said:
That mf drop passes but at this point we need him
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Does he have a high drop rate? That might be a no go then. I know the FO has been prioritizing hands when evaluating wrs

As for next years price I wish I could understand spotrac and OTC lol not sure what exactly I have to include to figure out what we’d be on the books for in a trade
 
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