that's the consolation to all this - ZDS backing out is gonna be a footnote on today's news with the browns lighting themselves on fire for no reason lol
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Nurps
MVP
haha. same, dude.
Grim
Ravens Ring of Honor
I mean, Ravens seem kind of pissed.
christ - deshaun watson's so toxic not only has he ruined the texans he's currently ruining all the franchises he's talking to too
Look, Baker is a dick and sometimes it's a good thing and sometimes it's a bad thing. But I can't believe that Browns' FO thought a guy that takes everything personally somehow wasn't going to take them looking at replacing him personally. They lost out on the replacement and thought everything would just be fine. I don't know what they were thinking.
Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
Yessssss. Burn, motherfuckers, burn!
Lol who they kidding? They'll trade him.
ironically the rams were a team i thought would be in on ZDS after he backed out
but i guess the cowboys probably still are sitting there with their 13m/yr they tried to give to randy gregory and the jets probably cant wait to try and give him their money
you cant complain about not having an adult in the room and then expect him to not be somewhat petulant
I will say this as well instead of replying to each individual person-
I blame the media, honestly, for the fan reaction.
The legal tampering period is not binding and it's akin to a handshake. People need to understand that, but the media should also wait until pen is to paper. Of course, in the media world where things have to come out ASAP, that won't happen.
Conversely, the Ravens had to see this coming. They tried to get a VERY team friendly deal and slip it in fast before Jones and Von signed. Those two signed sooner than the Ravens would have liked, but that's a risk you take when trying to offer such a lowball offer.
I blame the media, honestly, for the fan reaction.
The legal tampering period is not binding and it's akin to a handshake. People need to understand that, but the media should also wait until pen is to paper. Of course, in the media world where things have to come out ASAP, that won't happen.
Conversely, the Ravens had to see this coming. They tried to get a VERY team friendly deal and slip it in fast before Jones and Von signed. Those two signed sooner than the Ravens would have liked, but that's a risk you take when trying to offer such a lowball offer.
I think the funny thing is that Baker is the first QB out of their 10000 that actually embraced the idea of being in Cleveland and making them a winning team again, and actually did that to some extent. Is he a long-term answer regardless of this situation? Probably not, but you took everything you had built in turning that organization around and basically just threw it away and are committing to restarting again.
This is what I don't get.
Like, the Browns were very eager to talk shit and look for his replacement, but Baker can't be upset and want out?
"Hey, we are going to look for a better option because we don't want you Baker.... unless we can't find someone else. Then we love you!"
Man I love McVay...
redrum52
Hall of Famer
The funny thing is.... I don't think a lot of those players care either way. They're probably more upset they didn't get Watson. I would bet money some of them are in a group chat with odell laughing at Baker like we are.
that last bit i dont really buy - like ZDS and his agent are not stupid (or at least i dont think they are), i dont get how they could mess up their own perception of his value so badly... like no one in their right mind thought he would sign for less than 10m/yr and 11 or 12 probably seemed like the realistic low bar and he signed for less than 9m
i dont get how they misjudged that so badly - like it's not surprising that chandler jones and von miller got paid like top EDGEs in the league because they are - ZDS accepted a deal that that was like 30th in the league - i dont get what changed realistically
that's my only real confusion about this - not that he wants more money, but why they agreed to that figure in the first place
redrum52
Hall of Famer
The new fans I've seen across social media are awful
2 most important players in turning the browns around are now either gone or completely disillusioned
jarvis landry was massively instrumental in changing the culture inside that building by setting the standard and not accepting anyone not living up to that standard
and baker came in and energised the city and as you say embraced the browns and won them a playoff game - not saying he's the long-term option nor should they have thought he was but they've turned a spark of goodwill that helped turn them around into something sour
Michael M.
Pro Bowler
So do you go after another edge in the FA, or sign a center and draft an edge?
and if they are that's only gonna make that locker room even more toxic and that hard-won culture change they've been going through since 2018 is going to evaporate and they'll have the same issues that made them suck for 2 decades all over again