• Welcome to PurpleFlock! Sign up here so that you can chat with your fellow Ravens fans.

Signings, Cuts, Trades

UPennChem said:
If you look at this team pretty objectively it's a
QB (this could be Lamar obviously)
RB
OG
WR maybe 2
CB
DE

Away from being a total SB contender again next year. The team has to think about what it's going to be able to do in all of its situations to make the strongest team possible for as long as possible.
Click to expand...
I know its a long shot, but god it would be funs to have a young, cheap, and talented nucleus with a boat load of cap space to use for the first time in forever.
 
BoredMarine13 said:
Start fresh with a new OC, Trade Lamar for Houston's 1st/2nd round pick, draft Bryce Young, use that cap space to secure Roquan/Queen, use our pick (20-25 range) on CB/WR/OL support.

Its time to start fresh, this is the way.
Click to expand...
For a 1/2? Shit boy you crazy. The starting point for negotiations is gonna be 2 firsts and when a second team jumps in the bidding it would become 3 firsts
 
gtalk12 said:
I don't see how trading Lamar makes us better. Even with the picks
Click to expand...
Of course you can, but it would require objectivity.
Lamar is a great QB but its silly to think we cant be as good or better without him. None of us have a crystal ball. Lamar may win a super bowl for us next year, he also might completely blow out his PCL and never be the same athlete. Byrce Young maybe a bust, he also maybe the next Drew Brees.

Even if Lamar's play was not trending in a negative direction this season and he was the MVP candidate, its going to be difficult to pay him and give him the complimentary pieces he deserves. We could do it, but will surely have significant holes. Are we really structured for success if were also paying Roquan and Lamar top dollar? Honestly, I don't see it unless EDC is damn near perfect in the draft. That's not fair to Lamar or the fans. So why not objectively look at starting over with a young talented QB, draft picks to surrounded him with talent, and cap space to secure an already top tier defense?
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
For a 1/2? Shit boy you crazy. The starting point for negotiations is gonna be 2 firsts and when a second team jumps in the bidding it would become 3 firsts
Click to expand...
Bro your the GM , I'm just the assistant to the assistant getting the conversations started. Lets do this Kevin Costner
 
BoredMarine13 said:
Of course you can, but it would require objectivity.
Lamar is a great QB but its silly to think we cant be as good or better without him. None of us have a crystal ball. Lamar may win a super bowl for us next year, he also might completely blow out his PCL and never be the same athlete. Byrce Young maybe a bust, he also maybe the next Drew Brees.

Even if Lamar's play was not trending in a negative direction this season and he was the MVP candidate, its going to be difficult to pay him and give him the complimentary pieces he deserves. We could do it, but will surely have significant holes. Are we really structured for success if were also paying Roquan and Lamar top dollar? Honestly, I don't see it unless EDC is damn near perfect in the draft. That's not fair to Lamar or the fans. So why not objectively look at starting over with a young talented QB, draft picks to surrounded him with talent, and cap space to secure an already top tier defense?
Click to expand...

I can't recall a team letting someone in their prime get traded and they become better.
 
UPennChem said:
It's very risky. You can get better but you can also get WAYYYYY worse
Click to expand...

You would have to assume that the boat load of picks we have end up being hits which as we all know is not the case. You would then have to figure that whatever QB you take is going to be THE guy.
 
gtalk12 said:
I can't recall a team letting someone in their prime get traded and they become better.
Click to expand...
As sad as this statement is, getting better requires winning 1 playoff game lol. Now it's obviously the case that Lamar can do that too. But ffs the team needs to be constructed properly and then not all get lost to IR
 
gtalk12 said:
You would have to assume that the boat load of picks we have end up being hits which as we all know is not the case. You would then have to figure that whatever QB you take is going to be THE guy.
Click to expand...
Exactly! And there's 2 outcomes. If you do end up securing that 1st overall pick, you either take THE GUY and you look like an absolute genius, OR you take a scrub that sets you back 4 years AND you have the extreme regret of letting Lamar go. In the latter you like an idiot.
 
Ever since Lamar took over, we have been winning games at an extremely high level. Even the down years. Look how bad the team is this year and look at the record.

Lamar Jackson is the great eraser. Just him being on the field gives you a chance. He's been doing it with an inconsistent OC and a depleted offense.

IMO, it's on the front office to take bigger chances in the draft. We have devoted a number of picks to the offense which have not panned out.
 
gtalk12 said:
You would then have to figure that whatever QB you take is going to be THE guy.
Click to expand...
The trade never materializes if the Ravens don't think CJ Stroud or Bryce Young are "the guy" so that kind of seems irrelevant. If they don't like the class than its a no brainer to tag and keep the status quo for another year.
UPennChem said:
Exactly! And there's 2 outcomes. If you do end up securing that 1st overall pick, you either take THE GUY and you look like an absolute genius, OR you take a scrub that sets you back 4 years AND you have the extreme regret of letting Lamar go. In the latter you like an idiot.
Click to expand...
That's why this stuff is so fun and torturous at the same time. My personnel opinion is we died a slow death with Flacco and faced the same issues with cap problems and shitty support personnel until the very end. I'd prefer we dont repeat that while watching Lamar tell the internet to eat of bag of dicks(still funny) out of frustration.
 
BoredMarine13 said:
The trade never materializes if the Ravens don't think CJ Stroud or Bryce Young are "the guy" so that kind of seems irrelevant. If they don't like the class than its a no brainer to tag and keep the status quo for another year.

That's why this stuff is so fun and torturous at the same time. My personnel opinion is we died a slow death with Flacco and faced the same issues with cap problems and shitty support personnel until the very end. I'd prefer we dont repeat that while watching Lamar tell the internet to eat of bag of dicks(still funny) out of frustration.
Click to expand...
I hope we extend him this offseason so we can stop talking about this...
 
BoredMarine13 said:
The trade never materializes if the Ravens don't think CJ Stroud or Bryce Young are "the guy" so that kind of seems irrelevant. If they don't like the class than its a no brainer to tag and keep the status quo for another year.

That's why this stuff is so fun and torturous at the same time. My personnel opinion is we died a slow death with Flacco and faced the same issues with cap problems and shitty support personnel until the very end. I'd prefer we dont repeat that while watching Lamar tell the internet to eat of bag of dicks(still funny) out of frustration
Click to expand...

I get that but I don't see how Lamar and Flacco are comparable. Flacco never had the ability to carry an offense nor did we win as much with him
 
gtalk12 said:
I get that but I don't see how Lamar and Flacco are comparable. Flacco never had the ability to carry an offense nor did we win as much with him
Click to expand...
They are def not comparable, Lamar has him beat in nearly every category IMO. Just pointing out they are in a similar boat where neither guy is getting the support needed based on injuries, cap crunch, or flat out missing in the draft. Two very large impending contracts only make that situation much worse. I also don't buy the "carry the offense" argument in a team game. There are way to many variables to say THIS GUY carries the team. If I did believe that though I would agree Lamar is much closer than Joe ever was.
 
BoredMarine13 said:
They are def not comparable, Lamar has him beat in nearly every category IMO. Just pointing out they are in a similar boat where neither guy is getting the support needed based on injuries, cap crunch, or flat out missing in the draft. Two very large impending contracts only make that situation much worse. I also don't buy the "carry the offense" argument in a team game. There are way to many variables to say THIS GUY carries the team. If I did believe that though I would agree Lamar is much closer than Joe ever was.
Click to expand...

No they were not. Flacco had Torrey Smith, Dennis Pitta, Boldin, and Jacoby. Ray Rice in the backfield.


I would take that care in a HEART beat compared to anything we have had on the actual field these last few years.
 
gtalk12 said:
No they were not. Flacco had Torrey Smith, Dennis Pitta, Boldin, and Jacoby. Ray Rice in the backfield.


I would take that care in a HEART beat compared to anything we have had on the actual field these last few years.
Click to expand...
Did you follow the team pre Lamar? Take a look at 2013 and beyond .... There's a reason I was specifically talking about the end of Flacco's tenure and dying a slow death.

Flacco's best year post contract was 2014 and he was rocking a 40 year old Steve Smith and Crockett Gilmore
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top