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My fantasy people...

Do i start Jameis Winston vs this secondary

or

Drake Maye vs the Jets
You’re down bad bruh gd (I’m starting Jameis)
 
Well its the SAME secondary as last year with addition of a promising 1st round pick in Wiggins!

Orr may get demoted with Pees taking the reigns if the poor play continues.

We will not win a Championship with the last ranked secondary in the league.
I mean it’s also minus having Queen in coverage which seems big considering how many passes the team gives up over the middle. Also technically the team leader in INTs last year in Stone is gone as well but that one shouldn’t be a huge deal.

Honestly I put most of it to the fact that the Ravens have played the top 3 QBs who aren’t Lamar and 3 of the top 5 offenses, that aren’t the Ravens, in the NFL (note only the Bengals fill both of those so that’s 5 of 7 games that fits one of those 2).

I think the next 2 weeks, when they aren’t playing powerhouse offenses will be far more telling.
 
I mean it’s also minus having Queen in coverage which seems big considering how many passes the team gives up over the middle. Also technically the team leader in INTs last year in Stone is gone as well but that one shouldn’t be a huge deal.

Honestly I put most of it to the fact that the Ravens have played the top 3 QBs who aren’t Lamar and 3 of the top 5 offenses, that aren’t the Ravens, in the NFL (note only the Bengals fill both of those so that’s 5 of 7 games that fits one of those 2).

I think the next 2 weeks, when they aren’t playing powerhouse offenses will be far more telling.
I initially thought Queen as well, but I don't believe it's him. He had a lot of games where he wasn't good at all in coverage. I think a lot of it has to do with the loss of Dennard Wilson and of course I agree Stone had a ton of interceptions as well. Williams and Jackson has been horrible also.
 
It’s absolutely incredible that prior to the season the experts and everyone here including me thought the secondary was one of the best units in the NFL

I don’t get it . We added Wiggins too l Crazy
No! We all didn't! Some of us here don't drink the purple Kool-Aid whatsoever. Our secondary was decent at best but nothing more than that and 7 games in has proven that. Hopefully, they can turn it around.
 
I initially thought Queen as well, but I don't believe it's him. He had a lot of games where he wasn't good at all in coverage. I think a lot of it has to do with the loss of Dennard Wilson and of course I agree Stone had a ton of interceptions as well. Williams and Jackson has been horrible also.

Queen’s more likely missed in terms of his pass rush impact
 
Unfortunately, we're going to miss the Deshaun Watson show. No idea who the QB will be. They have DTR who is not good. They have Jameis that might put up 500 on us but also throw 5 INTs. They now have Bailey Zappe coming in too.

Regardless, Cleveland is not a very good team right now. They have their guys on defense, but the offense is putrid and is a really good opportunity for our struggling D to figure things out.
I wasn't too far off. We just forgot to catch them.
 
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