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The General Front 7 Thread

Sledge Hammer

Pro Bowler
Bad hand use and he keeps his head down. Doesn't matter how fast you are if your head's down. My old DL coach in HS always said "if your head is down, that's where you're going." You can't make the tackle, read the play, or pursue if your head's not up. I feel like this is a common theme for explosive DTs. They come out of their stance almost like a sprinter. Sure, it's great for getting off the ball and into the backfield, but it doesn't help you locate the ball carrier or get off a block. Even Brandon Williams is at times guilty of this.

The other thing is hand use. He still doesn't really have any moves. He could probably develop one hell of a swim move with his athleticism. I'd like to see him work on a speed to power conversion move a la James Harrison. You go quick outside, get the man on skates, and then you turn inside hard for a bull rush. It's tricky to do that on the interior because guards aren't set as deep as tackles, but I've seen it done.

Still, even with this, he's the kind of guy I want out there on 3rd down. He might not get home, but he gets unbelievable push and will force the QB to move.

He needs to learn moves and tracking the ball comes with reps. But when he uses his hands he moves and discards blockers. If he learns to play he will become one of best interior rushers
 

Sledge Hammer

Pro Bowler
Brent Urban was named in the preseason all 22 list by Bleacher Report. I'm almost disappointed they didn't include Pierce but it's good to see them grow into a menace for the whole league.
It's also slightly a surprise that with all the investment on outside guys, the most dangerous rushers are now on the inside (Pierce, Urban, ZDS, Henry). I hope the edge guys catch up during the regular season.

And I won't forget that PFF ranked our front 7 28th before the preseason...

Urban like Henry was a unique specimen but raw and injured. Now paying off
 

Ravensnation5220

Ravens Ring of Honor
Is keeping
1.B. Williams 2.Peirce 3.Urban 4.Kaufusi 5.Wormley 6.Henry 7.Richard 8.Davis 9.Smith 10. Suggs 11. T. Williams 12.Bowser 13.Judon 14. Correa 15.Peanut 16. Mosely
Too much???
 

Truth

Staff Member
Administrator
Yeah, it's probably this one, but it's weird, it was written in stone for me that we were 28th. My bad then, apologies for the fake news. And also for Jernigan, it's true they did grade him somewhere in the 80s iirc and now that you mention it.
No worries at all. I feel like I'm speaking for both of us in stating that I'm just glad that we're due to outperform either number. It felt that both lines were in question after going into the offseason workouts after losing several starters on both sides, and I'm relieved that at least one has seemingly already been quelled any concerns with several strong showings right out of the gate.
 

redrum52

Hall of Famer
If Madden is any indication(forget preseason) then our defense is going to be DISGUSTING. We haven't had front 7 like this since 14, but now we have the secondary to match... if we're lucky to still have them down the stretch.
 

Oldfaithful

Hall of Famer
If Madden is any indication(forget preseason) then our defense is going to be DISGUSTING. We haven't had front 7 like this since 14, but now we have the secondary to match... if we're lucky to still have them down the stretch.
Yeah, it's scary. We have 3 great young edge rushers in Bowser, Judon, and Williams.

The other scary thing is the the skill positions on the offense are also good. Wallace, Maclin, Woodhead. Tons of potential in West, Allen, Perriman, Maxx Williams.

Just no confidence in the line but everyone knows my opinion on that.
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
i wanna see urban shine in reg season. Preseason doesnt get me going at all. I cant wait though. Hope our defense actually can get pressure unlike last year
 

Jacquouille

Ravens Ring of Honor
Supporter
No worries at all. I feel like I'm speaking for both of us in stating that I'm just glad that we're due to outperform either number. It felt that both lines were in question after going into the offseason workouts after losing several starters on both sides, and I'm relieved that at least one has seemingly already been quelled any concerns with several strong showings right out of the gate.
Absolutely. 21st was more reasonnable but any Raven fan couldn't stand to have a middle of the pack front seven, let alone a bottom third front seven.
And I do feel a lot more optimistic about the OL than I did before, if just for the imroved pass pro.
 

The Raven

Veteran
If Madden is any indication(forget preseason) then our defense is going to be DISGUSTING. We haven't had front 7 like this since 14, but now we have the secondary to match... if we're lucky to still have them down the stretch.
I played one game against the Ravens so far. I was sacked like eight times and averaged 1.5 yards a carry. If that Madden game is any indication, even the Raiders oline can't stop the Ravens D :p
 

Sami84

Ravens Ring of Honor
I played one game against the Ravens so far. I was sacked like eight times and averaged 1.5 yards a carry. If that Madden game is any indication, even the Raiders oline can't stop the Ravens D :p

really? cos the stats are not amazing or anything as our guys are kinda unproven/up and coming..
 

The Raven

Veteran
really? cos the stats are not amazing or anything as our guys are kinda unproven/up and coming..
Speed kills in Madden. They blitzed a lot. Also, KO tore his quad in the first quarter, which didn't make it easier for me.

Regardless, this is kind of tongue in cheek.
 

Sooky

Pro Bowler
Well our front 7 is apparently ranked 4th in the division based off of Bucky Brooks and Daniel Jeremiah so RIP
 

DeVito52

Ravens Ring of Honor
Just sayin, before the last forum shut down I called Urban having a great year. It was pretty easy to see he definitely had the potential. Just needs to stay healthy.
 

redrum52

Hall of Famer
I played one game against the Ravens so far. I was sacked like eight times and averaged 1.5 yards a carry. If that Madden game is any indication, even the Raiders oline can't stop the Ravens D :p

Brick wall against the run.

Well our front 7 is apparently ranked 4th in the division based off of Bucky Brooks and Daniel Jeremiah so RIP


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...fuck them
 

Ellicottraven

Ravens Ring of Honor
Our Defensive front 7 will be amazing not because of the elite quality of the players because of the quality of the entire depth.
 
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