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Signings, Cuts, Trades

Simba

Staff Member
Moderator
We also only have between $4-5M in cap space right now, meaning if we signed a player in that price range, we'd need to restructure contracts or cut players in order to get more cap space just to sign draft picks.

We are doing some minor restructures and Brian M. opines that we're probably around $10M right now, for what that's worth.
 

cobrajet

Hall of Famer
Hey guys, I admit I don't know much about Michael Brockers. His he an upgrade on our d-line over Michael Pierce? I have no idea how these two compare or how excited I should be. I know the Campbell trade was a big upgrade to our d-line but I would like to hear how the swap of Pierce for Brockers compares.
 

Sami84

Ravens Ring of Honor
Hey guys, I admit I don't know much about Michael Brockers. His he an upgrade on our d-line over Michael Pierce? I have no idea how these two compare or how excited I should be. I know the Campbell trade was a big upgrade to our d-line but I would like to hear how the swap of Pierce for Brockers compares.

Ideally i'd have kept pierce and got rid of B will

Consider brockers an upgrade over wormley.

Pierce
Brockers
Campbell

looks much better. People forget how elite Pierce has been for us and his ''down year'' was still better than what B will has done for the most part
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
Hey guys, I admit I don't know much about Michael Brockers. His he an upgrade on our d-line over Michael Pierce? I have no idea how these two compare or how excited I should be. I know the Campbell trade was a big upgrade to our d-line but I would like to hear how the swap of Pierce for Brockers compares.
Very consistent run stopper and is able to create pressures every so often.
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
We are doing some minor restructures and Brian M. opines that we're probably around $10M right now, for what that's worth.
And that's fine... we have no details on the restructures. Its been expected that they'd look to convert salaries for Earl and Marcus (or both) into bonuses to free up some space, but hadn't heard any details.

That being said, $10M in space is practically nothing. Basically allows you for one mid-price signing with like a $4-5M cap hit, and then the rest you have to keep to the side for draft picks, rule of 51 elimination, etc.
 

Simba

Staff Member
Moderator
Ideally i'd have kept pierce and got rid of B will

Consider brockers an upgrade over wormley.

Pierce
Brockers
Campbell

looks much better. People forget how elite Pierce has been for us and his ''down year'' was still better than what B will has done for the most part

Not even close to doable money wise though.
 

Simba

Staff Member
Moderator
And that's fine... we have no details on the restructures. Its been expected that they'd look to convert salaries for Earl and Marcus (or both) into bonuses to free up some space, but hadn't heard any details.

That being said, $10M in space is practically nothing. Basically allows you for one mid-price signing with like a $4-5M cap hit, and then the rest you have to keep to the side for draft picks, rule of 51 elimination, etc.

Oh agreed. It's not much, but as you said, it does support a mid-level signing and maybe 1 or 2 lower level types. Would anticipate a couple more restructures.
 

JAAM

Hall of Famer
So if Judon signs the tag, he can't be traded? I'm confused. Thuney just signed his and it sounds like he'll be playing in NE for the year.
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
Ideally i'd have kept pierce and got rid of B will

Consider brockers an upgrade over wormley.

Pierce
Brockers
Campbell

looks much better. People forget how elite Pierce has been for us and his ''down year'' was still better than what B will has done for the most part[/QUOTE

1. I don't think you can find anybody who would argue that Pierce was better than Williams last year.
2. Realistically, there weren't many scenarios where you could cut Williams and keep Pierce from a financial standpoint. The cap savings just wasn't there.
 

Sami84

Ravens Ring of Honor
Pierce is better than B Will. Sorry, but if we had to choose between the two no one would choose b will over pierce.

b will does nothing better than pierce. hes basically a lesser version of pierce.
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
Oh agreed. It's not much, but as you said, it does support a mid-level signing and maybe 1 or 2 lower level types. Would anticipate a couple more restructures.
Peters and Thomas are basically the only two players on the roster who I can see actually get a restructure, where they'd convert salary into bonus and get some cap savings.

The only other player who you could potentially do it on is Brandon Williams, though he only has one year left after this year, so you really wouldn't save that much, and you'd just be ballooning his cap hit in 2021 to a level where you may not be able to realistically move on from him either.

There's nobody else on the roster with a contract that I see that would really do anything in terms of a restructure. Anything else would likely require an extension, ala Sam Koch.
 

rmcjacket23

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Pierce is better than B Will. Sorry, but if we had to choose between the two no one would choose b will over pierce.

b will does nothing better than pierce. hes basically a lesser version of pierce.
If they were both on the open market today, Williams would still get more money than Pierce in FA.

Williams got $3M more a year like 3 years ago than Pierce got yesterday. That's a pretty good indication of how the league values those two players.
 

cdp

Ravens Ring of Honor
So if Judon signs the tag, he can't be traded? I'm confused. Thuney just signed his and it sounds like he'll be playing in NE for the year.
No, you can only be traded once you actually have signed the tag.
 
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