not for this year's draft picks though
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not for this year's draft picks though
JAAM
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According to Rappaport, “The way it would work potentially is the Falcons would agree to a deal in principle before the draft. The trade would involve next year’s draft picks, not this year’s. Then it would be executed after June 1.”
JAAM
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I know.. I just wrote what Rappaport said
rmcjacket23
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OK, but again, it doesn't really do anything for Atlanta. I mean... what are they in a rush for? Is his value going to be bigger this weekend than a month from now? I personally don't think so. I think they may get a better trade for him after the draft.
They don't get cap space now, and they don't get any additional trade assets now. So their draft is unimpacted by the trade. If I were them, I'd need to get a really good deal to trade him today or tomorrow. Maybe that offer comes, but they also don't know what they don't know.
The only real incentive for Atlanta to deal this weekend is if they can use 2021 picks. Then they could be highly motivated.
If it were me, of course, I wouldn't trade him at all.
JAAM
Hall of Famer
I agree 100%, but I think they might be getting pressured by us or another WR needy team who would like to possibly take a 1st round WR off their board. Plus, I think they’ll select a QB at 4 as Pitts (take it for what it is) stated he doesn’t think he’ll be selected by Atlanta, which would indicate a full blown rebuild, PLUS, that’s a lot of cap relief for them by getting Julio off the books
rmcjacket23
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I guess we'll find out in the next 30 hours or so. I can see a reason for Atlanta to take a QB, but realistically, there are no paths to getting out of Ryan's deal this year, and its still very difficult to move in 2022 also. Not impossible, but there's not much cap savings and there's a ton of dead money. So if I were them, I'd be using pick #4 to upgrade the roster by whatever means they have, and make another 1-2 year run at this. They have to like their chances in that division with NO and Carolina possibly not being very good. The cap savings this year is something, but there's not a gigantic use for a bunch of cap space post-June, when most of your good players are long off the market, and a "rebuilding" team probably isn't interested in investing cap space in veterans anyway.
They'll definitely create space for 2022, but they can also do that prior to next offseason, via a trade or release.
rmcjacket23
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Would require a restructure of Julio's deal AND a restructure of a player or two currently on the roster.
Not that it's super surprising, but Jay Glazer said on his IG live that it's his understanding that the Ravens called to inquire, but nothing too major beyond that. Said he doesn't expect anything to go down due to the intricacies of Julio's contract and how difficult that makes it being that teams would have to wait until June.
drjohnnyfever
Pro Bowler
I hate "blockbuster trades." That indicates we might be sending someone their way. If it's a WR, who? If it's another young player who? That would be a way to exchange pay value. If it's just a blockbuster for picks to get him here that could work OR be a deal breaker. I'd hate to lose out like we did with Jarvis Landry.
JAAM
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So he thinks a trade is completely unlikely? Or that it would be difficult to pull off? Albert Breer “feels” as if Julio will be moved. I’m so sick of getting my hopes up lol
I believe the words he used were "I don't see it happening"
JAAM
Hall of Famer
Interesting. Maybe that’s just his opinion and he hasn’t actually heard anything. All signs have pointed to Julio possibly being traded by reputable sources and none of them have yet to say they don’t see it happening. I guess we’ll find out
I would caution that Glazer isn’t the type to speculate. He’s plugged in
JAAM
Hall of Famer
They do not have a strong negotiating position though. As great as Julio is he is 32, off an injury filled year . That is 2 things that lower the value on a player and if it were anyone else I would say too many red flags. There is also the fact that the Falcons are really going to want to move on from him. The one thing in the Falcons favor is that it is a pretty nice contract for the team acquiring him if he gets healthy and looks like JJ again.
BoredMarine13
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Does Julio have a no-trade clause? Maybe I'm in the minority, but I cant imagine he really wants to come to Baltimore.
We're certainly closer to a Super Bowl than the Falcons, but his stats and role would decrease significantly in Baltimore. For someone who is a consistent 1,000 yard WR and “the guy”, is he really going to be ok taking on his new role? When he only sees 4-5 passes a game I'd imagine the frustration is inevitable for a WR of his caliber.
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We're certainly closer to a Super Bowl than the Falcons, but his stats and role would decrease significantly in Baltimore. For someone who is a consistent 1,000 yard WR and “the guy”, is he really going to be ok taking on his new role? When he only sees 4-5 passes a game I'd imagine the frustration is inevitable for a WR of his caliber.
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JoeyFlex5
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The thing about it is that the big contract is the exact reason the Falcons would want to trade him, like I get that there’s obstacles, but in this scenario the Falcons may want to get this done as badly if not more than the ravens, they want the return, they want to clear the cap.