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rossihunter2

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Those names disgust me. How much more generic could they be? Seriously this is the nfl, if you’re gonna go generic then go traditional like panthers/lions/bears/eagles. Not this madden create a team shit.

they all absolutely suck

why would any neutral ever pick the [insert random generic military thing here] over the ravens or the buccaneers or the titans or the vikings or the raiders - especially with the global iconography of some of those teams especially the raiders

the more creative you are the more likely you are to get more people on board and also find new fans

my enduring memory of "picking" the ravens was the cool name, the cool uniform and then watching the defence to my - at the time - untrained eye (what i now understand to be the controlled chaos) flock around like birds pre-snap to create confusion and i knew which team was going to be mine
 

Dom McRaven

Hall of Famer
On February 2nd, 2022, The Washington Football Team will reveal their new name. They posted a sneak preview of the jersey and helmets on Instagram.

The Final 6 Choices for the New Name are Armada, Presidents, Brigade, Redhawks, Commanders, and Defenders.


I still believe that it should be either Redtails or Redwolves.
 

BoredMarine13

Ravens Ring of Honor
The bank is one of the best non-modern stadiums in the league. Just because it’s not loaded down with restaurants, night clubs, swimming pools and movie theaters doesn’t mean it’s not a great stadium. It’s very well maintained, constantly updated and upgraded, and the game day presentation is second to none.

like straight up, nobody does more with less than Steve bisciotti, the gameday product he produces for the fans without having a mega stadium like Vegas/Dallas/LA is insane.

I’d imagine the comparable gameday products would be heinz and lambeau fields. The bank is well known for being an awesome place to tailgate and watch football, among the leagues best.

Very much disagree. The stadium gets most of its love from the “atmosphere” which is a product of excited blue collar fans bringing great energy. I really think Ravens fans are some of the most passionate and well traveled fans in the NFL. The stadium itself is an average venue, the surrounding area is less than appealing, food options are limited, and parking is a pain. It’s also missing the iconic charm like Camden Yards and the warehouse. I will say the video boards are some of the best in the league at M&T


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rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
The Washington Presidents?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Stop.

My money is on Armada

in terms of ease of speech (which is somewhat important when thinking about it because it needs to sound somewhat right when you say it) - armada and defenders roll off the tongue easiest - redhawks is ok phonetically too

but the other 3 just make the whole team name a mouthful and they'd have been better of sticking with "football team"
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
Very much disagree. The stadium gets most of its love from the “atmosphere” which is a product of excited blue collar fans bringing great energy. I really think Ravens fans are some of the most passionate and well traveled fans in the NFL. The stadium itself is an average venue, the surrounding area is less than appealing, food options are limited, and parking is a pain. It’s also missing the iconic charm like Camden Yards and the warehouse. I will say the video boards are some of the best in the league at M&T


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Respectfully, that’s bullshit. The surrounding area and parking are the only valid points, but I guess it’s subjective so whatever
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
I still believe that it should be either Redtails or Redwolves.
Red wolves is wack but redtails was the best possible name from day one imo. The logo, the significance, all of it was dead on. And they fuck it up for madden relocation names.
in terms of ease of speech (which is somewhat important when thinking about it because it needs to sound somewhat right when you say it) - armada and defenders roll off the tongue easiest - redhawks is ok phonetically too

but the other 3 just make the whole team name a mouthful and they'd have been better of sticking with "football team"
I don’t like WFT but I loved pat mcafees idea of DCFC the dc football club
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
Respectfully, that’s bullshit. The surrounding area and parking are the only valid points, but I guess it’s subjective so whatever
I guess it depends on what you consider "the surrounding area". Like the Harbor is walkable from there, and is a fine place, and so are places like Federal Hill and Fells Point. But there's certainly areas directly around the stadium that I would want no part of walking around at night and barely even in the daylight. Anything right outside the Casino or in similar areas.

There's a reason why a lot of football stadiums aren't built right inside a City area per-say. Size and traffic (which M&T is on the smaller side and the traffic sucks balls) are one, and safety is the other, because most cities, regardless of size, are going to have poverty, homeless people, and crime in the surrounded areas.

That being said... I've never once felt "unsafe" going to a game during daylight areas (I'm not the kind to feel unsafe really at night either). The tailgating is generally great. The A-C lots are wide open in a friendly area surrounded by fans, however I will say the G-H lots are kind of sketchy for tailgating, given they're like off to the side and right underneath an overpass. But I don't find them unsafe.

The sheer volume of people around makes it difficult to be too worried about crime. I'm quite certain that in some of the smaller lots (and even in the big one's) people just walk around and steal stuff routinely while people are inside during the game, but I've seen that as prevalent at road stadiums also.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
I guess it depends on what you consider "the surrounding area". Like the Harbor is walkable from there, and is a fine place, and so are places like Federal Hill and Fells Point. But there's certainly areas directly around the stadium that I would want no part of walking around at night and barely even in the daylight. Anything right outside the Casino or in similar areas.

There's a reason why a lot of football stadiums aren't built right inside a City area per-say. Size and traffic (which M&T is on the smaller side and the traffic sucks balls) are one, and safety is the other, because most cities, regardless of size, are going to have poverty, homeless people, and crime in the surrounded areas.

That being said... I've never once felt "unsafe" going to a game during daylight areas (I'm not the kind to feel unsafe really at night either). The tailgating is generally great. The A-C lots are wide open in a friendly area surrounded by fans, however I will say the G-H lots are kind of sketchy for tailgating, given they're like off to the side and right underneath an overpass. But I don't find them unsafe.

The sheer volume of people around makes it difficult to be too worried about crime. I'm quite certain that in some of the smaller lots (and even in the big one's) people just walk around and steal stuff routinely while people are inside during the game, but I've seen that as prevalent at road stadiums also.
I’ve never felt unsafe tailgating at all, the surrounding areas can be sketchy at times though, not tailgating areas directly but maybe if you’re walking a good distance to the stadium you can walk past some unsettling areas depending on how nervous you get around a certain… demographic. But even the worst of the stadiums surrounding areas are still in the top 5% nicest areas of Baltimore city and I’ve seen all of it, it’s really not bad, just saying of ALL the points made, that might be the only valid ones. The bank is an excellent stadium.
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
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I’ve never felt unsafe tailgating at all, the surrounding areas can be sketchy at times though, not tailgating areas directly but maybe if you’re walking a good distance to the stadium you can walk past some unsettling areas depending on how nervous you get around a certain… demographic. But even the worst of the stadiums surrounding areas are still in the top 5% nicest areas of Baltimore city and I’ve seen all of it, it’s really not bad, just saying of ALL the points made, that might be the only valid ones. The bank is an excellent stadium.

from what ive read the reasons it's never considered for superbowls and stuff is entirely down to non-stadium-related stuff

e.g. climate in february, hotel and hospitality industry, large airport infrastructure, space outside the stadium for hosting events, secondary practice facilities etc.

stuff that wont ever really be changeable - but the stadium itself seems to fit all the required parameters including capacity, hospitality, in-stadium facilities etc.
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
from what ive read the reasons it's never considered for superbowls and stuff is entirely down to non-stadium-related stuff

e.g. climate in february, hotel and hospitality industry, large airport infrastructure, space outside the stadium for hosting events, secondary practice facilities etc.

stuff that wont ever really be changeable - but the stadium itself seems to fit all the required parameters including capacity, hospitality, in-stadium facilities etc.
Correct. It's not the stadium itself or the fear of the surrounding areas.
Nobody wants to play football in February in Baltimore. The weather sucks.
Additionally, it's hardly a "tourist destination". I like Baltimore, but I've never once been like "yeah I want to vacation there" or have said to myself "yeah, I'd like to go spend 3-4 days there" for any reason at all. I think they'd have the airport and hotels to make it work (most likely), but it's just not a place a lot of fans are going to be clamoring to go.

It's why when they're considering "cold weather" cities for SBs, its either places who play in domes, or it's much larger metro areas, like NYC, where it's more of a destination than anything. Hosting the SB isn't like a massively stressful event for a city like NYC. It would be a massively stressful event for all involved if it were in Baltimore.
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
Correct. It's not the stadium itself or the fear of the surrounding areas.
Nobody wants to play football in February in Baltimore. The weather sucks.
Additionally, it's hardly a "tourist destination". I like Baltimore, but I've never once been like "yeah I want to vacation there" or have said to myself "yeah, I'd like to go spend 3-4 days there" for any reason at all. I think they'd have the airport and hotels to make it work (most likely), but it's just not a place a lot of fans are going to be clamoring to go.

It's why when they're considering "cold weather" cities for SBs, its either places who play in domes, or it's much larger metro areas, like NYC, where it's more of a destination than anything. Hosting the SB isn't like a massively stressful event for a city like NYC. It would be a massively stressful event for all involved if it were in Baltimore.

basically got to have the ability to easily welcome hundreds of thousands of people to your city without the local infrastructure collapsing including transport links and hospitality

airports have to be able to deal with the increase too

that's tough for any destination that's not used to or expected to normally handle these types of events
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
basically got to have the ability to easily welcome hundreds of thousands of people to your city without the local infrastructure collapsing including transport links and hospitality

airports have to be able to deal with the increase too

that's tough for any destination that's not used to or expected to normally handle these types of events
Right. I mean, again, I'm not super concerned about airports or hotels in the greater Baltimore area. Proximity to DC helps, but you've got 4 major airports within 90 minutes of the stadium, and one within 15 minutes. I think the hotel and hospitality infrastructure is probably there as well, given that, again, you've kind of got DC to lean on.

It's mostly weather, lack of a dome, and Baltimore not being that big of a "tourist" destination compared to other large cities that host the events.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
from what ive read the reasons it's never considered for superbowls and stuff is entirely down to non-stadium-related stuff

e.g. climate in february, hotel and hospitality industry, large airport infrastructure, space outside the stadium for hosting events, secondary practice facilities etc.

stuff that wont ever really be changeable - but the stadium itself seems to fit all the required parameters including capacity, hospitality, in-stadium facilities etc.
Yes, logistically there is no reason for the nfl to want a super bowl in baltimore, the city itself couldn’t handle the demands, and Baltimore is just not an attractive enough place for such an event. Simply out there is no justifying it. IF the ravens built an absolute mega stadium like a sofi then the thought might pop up in talks here and there but even then it wouldn’t get past “maybe” just because Baltimore couldn’t handle it.

the stadium though has never been put down as a subpar stadium, for its age it’s top of the line. I believe it’s 23 years old and it’s in excellent shape, beautifully maintained, visually appealing inside and out, there’s a lot of walking to get to the top decks sure, but that’s the beginning and end of the actual stadium complaints.
 

marklar

Pro Bowler
The Jags are really a step ahead of everyone. Starting next years tanking already by interviewing Bill O'Brian!
Maybe they think they can get a minority comp pick if they sign him, but someone has to break it to them that morons are not a qualifying minority.
 
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