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Signings, Cuts, Trades
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JAAM
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Omggggg I saw the "Ra" and nearly creamed myself
just seen rock ya-sin's involved in the deal going back the other way but i wonder what picks are moving
JAAM
Hall of Famer
poor guy can never just settle in lol
Thinks teams are finally starting to realize that he can rush the passer but really can't do much else. Works in some capacities but not in others.
being passed around like a joint lol
also has a very specific fit on the edge - doesnt offer much versatility - really good at his thing but it is a very specific thing that you have to scheme for
i want tretter or boze first lol
rmcjacket23
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Well some of those question marks are YOUR question marks, not mine, nor are they necessarily the Ravens question marks. The question marks are opinions, not facts.
If we want a stud LG then we should be paying for a stud LG, because nothing in the draft is guaranteed. I could argue nothing in FA is guaranteed either, but obviously monetarily one has advantages over the other.
In terms of the difference between yours and my assumptions, I think they're pretty dramatic. For starters, the entire basis for your assumptions are "I don't know if these guys are healthy or good". Not very provocative. You could say that about like 80% of the roster, including our entire secondary (literally), our entire RB room (literally), and our QB. Is the expectation we're going to have contingencies or replacements for all of those guys as well, since we don't know how they'll respond to injuries or even if they're good? (Doubt it)
As for my assumptions, they have less to do with how productive they'll be (because I don't know, and neither do you) and about how they're going to fit in a finite roster. Its kind of hard to argue I have a "biased logjam", considering I didn't make the logjam. The Ravens did. When you basically guarantee that 5-6 of your lineman are on the active roster, that's of their creation, not mine. My bias or lack thereof doesn't change that they don't really have options to reduce it.
So my assumptions (I'd argue they're not assumptions at all) are based on the following:
1. We've got three tackles who are locked into roster spots. Stanley, Moses, Mekari. Really doesn't matter how we feel about them, they've been signed and structured in a way that they're not going anywhere but to the 53 man, or on IR.
2. We have a great Guard in Zeitler, and we've also used two day two draft picks on interior lineman in the last two years, which is Cleveland and Phillips. Neither got a tremendous amount of playing time at that spot in the last few years, but it would be extremely odd for the Ravens to move on from either, given they really don't know if either can play that spot. Anybody who is assuming that they can't play that spot also has no real basis for that assumption, because they really haven't seen it.
In my opinion, which I think is hard to argue against at this point, those six guys all have locked in roster spots.
Haven't addressed Center yet, meaning there's probably another addition coming there AND somebody who can back them up. Likely TCC.
The irony for me is that we're talking about a high level of certainty of any Guard or Tackle being drafted high in the draft, when we've already relatively done that for several years now. Took two guards in round three the last two years, and we also took guards in the 4th round in 19 and 20, and we still apparently have an opening there. Not sure another day 2 or day 3 draft pick should be assumed to be a starter at that level either, or even a high end backup.
JAAM
Hall of Famer
It'll probably be one or the other though huh? ZDS or Boze/Tretter?
rmcjacket23
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Yeah I'm not arguing with the graph. I think they're just sort of implying that they spent a lot of money on some guys that many would consider "mid tier" FAs. I'm saying I don't even really have an issue with that, provided your draft picks are playing well and staying home, which they're not.
There's generally not a ton of "value" in FA. Like we fans chirp about it a lot, but paying $17M a year for a high end safety isn't really all that much "value". Sure, he's maybe getting paid a little less than somebody who's maybe not quite as good as him, but there aren't many players in the league that aren't QBs or high end like game disruptors that are "bargains" at $17M a year.
They have to overspend in FA because they can't draft players who will play well for them, and they can't get the good one's to stay there. Its a correlation between having a lot of money to spend and not having a lot of talent.
There's really only three types of teams in this league that spend big in FA:
1. Teams without a competent QB
2. Teams with a great young rookie QB and multiple years of quality drafts, resulting in a large group of cheap, quality young players (Bengals, Chargers)
3. Teams that draft like shit, lose a lot, and can't get anybody to stay (Jaguars, Jets, etc.).
And #2 is the only one that's appealing to anybody.
not necessarily
you forgot randy gregory (instead of von miller)
Michael M.
Pro Bowler
Are they keeping Nassib?
i think they just cut him with a june 1st designation
I'm so excited to find out what happens in NFL free agency that's going to start in almost an hour's time.
You guys think we'll manage to find any OL help? Anyone in the secondary?
You guys think we'll manage to find any OL help? Anyone in the secondary?