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The Random Thought Thread

rmcjacket23 said:
So I agree with the premise of we didn't play well yesterday on offense, BUT, we did still win.

I guess my question is...why do people not feel confident about our ability to be inferior teams? Has that been an issue with Lamar-led teams?

I mean if I just go back to 2019-2021...
In Lamar starts, we're 21-4 against teams who don't make the playoffs that year. We're 10-6 against teams that do.

When we play inferior teams (in terms of teams who don't finish with a winning record or don't make the playoffs), when Lamar starts, we win those games at a very high rate. If the argument is "well we don't play very well in those games", thats fine, but that's more about optics than outcome.

I don't have any real concerns about this team beating bad teams. I think we'll handle the Jags somewhat easily, I think we'll beat Denver (though probably in a game that looks a lot more like yesterdays game) and I think we'll handle Atlanta relatively easily too. The rest are division games where pretty much anything can happen, but I don't anticipate getting swept by Pittsburgh and there's no reason I see why we can't beat the Browns either.

My concern is the concern everybody should have... what happens when we actually play good teams? We were dominant against basically everybody in 2019, but in 2020 we were 4-3 against playoff teams, and 1-2 in 2021, with Lamar under center. Currently, against teams with a winning record this year, we're now 3-3. And two of those wins are against the Jets and the Patriots, who, while they might have winning records, I seriously doubt anybody is treating as "contenders" in the AFC. And one or both of those teams won't make the playoffs most likely.
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I get what you are saying but to me, the outcome (which is a win) doesn't tell the whole story. Optically, if we can see that the Ravens played this poorly against the so-called, "inferior" teams, then that is a major cause for concern as you mentioned....what happens when we actually play good teams? And that brings me back to my point; this type of performance will bite them in the ass at the most inopportune time-the playoffs when those better teams await.

Always happy for a win over a loss but I guess, I am pissed that the Ravens couldn't take advantage or make the most of their so-called "self-scouting", their nearly 2 weeks of rest, playing at home, and against a 3-6 squad. But come out with that type of performance offensively.
 
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Sizzle said:
So we won even with us playing piss poor on offense. Which, believe it or not, has been a theme so far this year. Even in our losses, our offense got stagnant and stopped scoring. Sooo… since I’m pissed on here anyway, I’ll open it up…. Why should we give our advantage of having a great defense up just to sign Lamar who really doesn’t make a difference here. I mean Andy Dalton could’ve done what Lamar did yesterday and what Lamar has done a lot of games outside of 2019
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so you're saying Lamar didn't play well yesterday. Did you see all the drops yesterday, I think there were 4 or 5. Did you see all of those pin point passes to Demarcus Robinson yesterday and all over the field I might add. He completed 72% of his passes. Lamar wasn't fantastic yesterday, but he was playing well and unfortunately had 1 interception that stalled a drive and if I might add that was an incredible play on the DT's part.
 
RavensMania said:
so you're saying Lamar didn't play well yesterday. Did you see all the drops yesterday, I think there were 4 or 5. Did you see all of those pin point passes to Demarcus Robinson yesterday and all over the field I might add. He completed 72% of his passes. Lamar wasn't fantastic yesterday, but he was playing well and unfortunately had 1 interception that stalled a drive and if I might add that was an incredible play on the DT's part.
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Lamar wasn't terrible yesterday and made some really nice throws.
The pick was a great play by the D lineman to react and make the catch, but the ball was thrown right to him, not good.
 
Tank said:
Lamar wasn't terrible yesterday and made some really nice throws.
The pick was a great play by the D lineman to react and make the catch, but the ball was thrown right to him, not good.
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DT Bravvion Roy​

(on his interception) "Through film, we saw he (Lamar) throws the ball really low. Sometimes he would side-arm it and throw it low.
 
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rmcjacket23 said:
1. Because its one game, and Andy Dalton can't win playoff games on this team. Andy Dalton also couldn't score enough points to even keep a game close in games, like, for example, the Dolphins, where the offense scores a bunch and we still can't win.
Basically, defense isn't good enough to win for you week in and week out.

2. I don't think we need to give up that much on defense just because we're extending/franchising Lamar. Who would we have to give up? There's basically two names... Peters and Roquan. Roquan is easy to extend if you extend Lamar, and I think most fans are on the fence about whether Peters deserves long-term money here at this point.

I don't see a mass exodus of players on the defense that will make this unit worse in the near future. I think we'll need to add some Corners and some more players on the Dline, but nothing earth-shattering. Defense is what the offense was 2-3 years ago now, which is getting younger and more talented by the year.
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“can’t win playoff games on this team”… Lamar hasn’t won but 1 playoff game since 2018
 
Tank said:
Lamar wasn't terrible yesterday and made some really nice throws.
The pick was a great play by the D lineman to react and make the catch, but the ball was thrown right to him, not good.
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yes it was, definitely too low.

btw, I heard yesterday that Herbert and Burrow have the most batted balls in the league. Thought that was interesting and at the same time it makes a lot of sense do to their release point.
 
All_black_everything said:


@Mainejet

Oh damn lol
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So mainejet rightfully earns criticism here... BUT... I'll defend him partially. He's overrating Wilson, but I don't recall him saying Wilson was great or even good. His claim was that he wasn't turning the ball over, which is at least partially true.

Basically they're winning in spite of Wilson instead of because of him. Which everybody can see.

And yes, he sucks, and the Jets will not be relevant until they upgrade at QB.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
So mainejet rightfully earns criticism here... BUT... I'll defend him partially. He's overrating Wilson, but I don't recall him saying Wilson was great or even good. His claim was that he wasn't turning the ball over, which is at least partially true.

Basically they're winning in spite of Wilson instead of because of him. Which everybody can see.

And yes, he sucks, and the Jets will not be relevant until they upgrade at QB.
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Just the exact same positive bullshit I’d expect to find here
 
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