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Lamar Jackson
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SaltyDog
MVP
The struggle was real.
Tank
Hall of Famer
Didn’t he win a SB in his 3rd year? AFCCG his second year?
gtalk12
Ravens Ring of Honor
He is a strong word
Dude went 9 for 21 with 123 yards and threw 2 ints.
He did rush one in though. Make no mistake, that early success was almost all on that defense and run game.
SaltyDog
MVP
2nd year. 2 in his first 5 years.
SaltyDog
MVP
Yep, they were a smash mouth team, much like the Ravens back in those days.
gtalk12
Ravens Ring of Honor
Depending on which side of the fence you are on, that defense was only second to ours
Tank
Hall of Famer
It certainly is, but it’s always said for any player.
For me most QB stats are subjective as we don’t know the circumstances their compiled. Safe to say though you generally need a QB that has the “clutch gene” to be successful in the tournament. He doesn’t need to be the best, or most proficient as stats go, but definitely has to know how to handle the pressure of the win or go home situation.
Tank
Hall of Famer
Willbacker
Ravens Ring of Honor
Yep. Stats stand for salt so you throw that away. The best one was comparing Lamar to Josh Allen's completion % in the 1st 4 yrs. Allen had a shit rookie year with a 52% completion rate which was factored in and gave Lamar a higher completion % so therefore Lamar is better.
So many different factors. Like you said "clutch gene". How well do they do 2 scores down. 4th qtr performance. Game winning drives. You can even factor things like bad weather, defensive coverages (man/zone/heavy blitz packages), Jeremy Bogar involvement, player injuries, defensive rankings and offensive philosophy
gtalk12
Ravens Ring of Honor
Tank
Hall of Famer
I’ll have to get a look later, but didn’t the Steelers score the game winner against the Cards on a long drive with like a couple minutes left in the game? I remember being at a SB party and everyone was saying the game was over, Cards win.
redrum52
Hall of Famer
In one he was essentially in a baby seat sleeping. He did his job in the other. Don't think he's a HoF either.
gtalk12
Ravens Ring of Honor
The Arizona one was decided on a James Harrison INT in the redzone that he returned if I recall correctly
Tank
Hall of Famer
Did you look at the 3 playoff games leading up to that 2006 SB?
Tank
Hall of Famer
QtR Nevermore
Pro Bowler
We count January Joe's early career playoff successes that were pretty similar (and some use them as a stick to beat Lamar with), so why not?
I hate Ben and it took him a while to reach his peak but then he had a long run where he was consistently a top 5 or 6 QB in the league (And everyone ahead of him was 1st ballot.) so I think he probably is a HoFer.
We can forget those rapes either - we know what they do for a QBs value.
gtalk12
Ravens Ring of Honor
QtR Nevermore
Pro Bowler
I remember Haloti rattling him.
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