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Are you happy with our defense?

DeVito52

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There have been talks about how great our defense is this year, maybe the best in the league. How if we had a decent offense we would win games. The latter may be true, but when you watch them play, they just aren't scary. They don't have the look of a legit top defense.

They don't have an insane pass rush. They don't have a dominating run defense. The secondary has proven to be a liability at times. As much as I hate to say it, nothing about this defense is great. The slate of quarterbacks we have played this year is honestly sad, and without a doubt makes the defense look better than it is. They are good at forcing turnovers, which half the time seems to be the only thing keeping them from being exposed. Its easy to forget all the mistakes when you intercept a pass or force a fumble at the end of a drive. But backup QBs can also be faulted for a lot of those turnovers. How good is this defense really? We don't even know.

Don't get me wrong, this defense has massive potential. And some great pieces for the near future. They've even played some games this year that make you say wow, when they are clicking on all cylinders, they are almost impossible to score against. But the pass rush really worries me at times. When guys have 4+ seconds in the pocket its not gonna end well. Its gotta be fixed. This team doesn't belong in the playoffs. But if we make it, I fear a good offense with their starting QB wipes the floor with us. Because our offense is certainly never gonna help out.

How do backup quarterbacks, at times, seem to be able to drive straight down the field? How are we giving up big runs that we just weren't allowing last year? How do we improve our pass rush? Fire Dean Pees? Limit ZDS' snaps? (Yes) Play our younger guys more?

Are you content with our defense? If not, what do you think the problems are? I'm interested to see everyone's opinion on this. I know maybe I'm being overcritical, but it honestly feels like last years defense was better. And that shouldn't be.
 

redrum52

Hall of Famer
Is Bowser hurt? All this talk of the pass rush gem Williams yet ZDS is in on obvious passing downs. I'll never get this team. God forbid a young player shine because we know they'll see no game time.

And to answer the question, for the most part they are doing their job, but I expected more.
 

Sami84

Ravens Ring of Honor
I'm not happy with Webb getting a lot of snaps and for fucks sake Jaylen HIll should be given a shot! In the one game he played in he did great in all his snaps and in preseason was our BEST DB
 

Sami84

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tim williams worries me. He's looking like sergio kindle(college) who i never liked( nfl snap or not).

I preferred lawson and willis over him slightly and the bengals def got the better two, which is what i suspected after the draft.

Lawson, Willis > T.will, Bowser
 

Sami84

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Bowsers lack of impact is concerning. I had worries about him during the draft...great athlete but not a smart football player. We seem to like those..it's sickening that jaylen hill hasn't been given a chance to grow. He's got a lot more to offer than webb does at this point
 

Tru11

Practice Squad
ravens have a top of the league defense.
bottom of the league offense.
more cap is being spend on the offense then the defense.

ravens fan logic is to still bitch about the defense.

they are 2nd in points allowed.
1st in turnovers.
top 10 in yards allowed.
top 10 in sacks.
only 5 teams are spending less of the cap on defense!!!

they are over performing big time.

what we know is that the defense is the biggest reason we have a shot at a WC spot.

wish you where so overcritical about the offense and flacco....
 

redrum52

Hall of Famer
ravens have a top of the league defense.
bottom of the league offense.
more cap is being spend on the offense then the defense.

ravens fan logic is to still bitch about the defense.

they are 2nd in points allowed.
1st in turnovers.
top 10 in yards allowed.
top 10 in sacks.
only 5 teams are spending less of the cap on defense!!!

they are over performing big time.

what we know is that the defense is the biggest reason we have a shot at a WC spot.

wish you where so overcritical about the offense and flacco....

Something about OC, drops, OL, defense and 4th qtr leads. I can't blame Flacco for playing in the 25-35 QB range with all those things. How could I ask a 10 year vet to be even mediocre? Seems easier to point out the other faults except his, but that damned defense better play like the 2000 Ravens...

And you know a select few will never be as critical towards their boy Joe as they are with everyone else. It baffles me.
 

Tru11

Practice Squad
Something about OC, drops, OL, defense and 4th qtr leads. I can't blame Flacco for playing in the 25-35 QB range with all those things. How could I ask a 10 year vet to be even mediocre? Seems easier to point out the other faults except his, but that damned defense better play like the 2000 Ravens...

And you know a select few will never be as critical towards their boy Joe as they are with everyone else. It baffles me.

pretty much.
these double standards are just ridiculous.

when you P has better mechanics then your QB throwing the ball , defense is absolutely the least of your worries....
 

redrum52

Hall of Famer
pretty much.
these double standards are just ridiculous.

when you P has better mechanics then your QB throwing the ball , defense is absolutely the least of your worries....

As I was replying on ESPN they say he has the worst TD:INT ratio since signing his new deal. I would assume among starters, but wouldn't shock me if he's beating out some back ups. I guarantee if Joe wasn't our guy there would be a much different perception about his "excusable" play.
 

Tru11

Practice Squad
As I was replying on ESPN they say he has the worst TD:INT ratio since signing his new deal. I would assume among starters, but wouldn't shock me if he's beating out some back ups. I guarantee if Joe wasn't our guy there would be a much different perception about his "excusable" play.

meh some are just flacco fans first , ravens fans second.

wont be suprised if some jump ship after the flacco era tbh.
 

29BmoreBird22

Staff Member
Moderator
Writer
tim williams worries me. He's looking like sergio kindle(college) who i never liked( nfl snap or not).

I preferred lawson and willis over him slightly and the bengals def got the better two, which is what i suspected after the draft.

Lawson, Willis > T.will, Bowser
Think I read somewhere that the Bengals are incredibly upset with how bad Willis has been.
 

Militant X 1

Ravens Ring of Honor
The Ravens defensive pass rush has been absent at times.

The secondary has been exposed a few times (i.e. Jimmy got his ass handed to him last night against Hopkins).

They have been unable to get off the field on 3rd downs more than I'd like for them to.

Flaws and all, the Ravens defense is still the SAVING GRACE of this team.
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
Something about OC, drops, OL, defense and 4th qtr leads. I can't blame Flacco for playing in the 25-35 QB range with all those things. How could I ask a 10 year vet to be even mediocre? Seems easier to point out the other faults except his, but that damned defense better play like the 2000 Ravens...

And you know a select few will never be as critical towards their boy Joe as they are with everyone else. It baffles me.
On point
 

Sami84

Ravens Ring of Honor
they are an oppertunistic Defense..not a consistanely great one. for that to change they need a superstar ILB ( sorry, mosely is not that) and a dominant edge rusher opposite suggs and an interior linesman who is great at rushing the passer ( ala geno atkins)
 

29BmoreBird22

Staff Member
Moderator
Writer
they are an oppertunistic Defense..not a consistanely great one. for that to change they need a superstar ILB ( sorry, mosely is not that) and a dominant edge rusher opposite suggs and an interior linesman who is great at rushing the passer ( ala geno atkins)
So just something... zero teams have...?
 
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