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Sledge Hammer said:
As for coaching gm changes. I would welcome Gruden and Kubiak. Our offense would be top5 and if anybody could fix Joe Those 2 can!! Even if ravens back into playoffs on this soft schedule Biscotti isn't standing for his franchise paid QB playing like a bottom 5 QB and holding the team back. And as for Ozzie and Decosta. Those dim sighted morons are as much to blame for Joe's play as Harball. Sure the ravens are competitive. But not with up and coming talented young players. Competitive with using PEDs and propping team up with popsickel sticks as in signing cheap veterans that aren't great players like before. But are useful and crafty to give the ravens some good play for a while.

Ravens opted for a box of band aids over one of the best Olineman in the league. An overpowering mauler that strikes fear in opponents thus making skill position players better. Ravens should have the best Oline in football with the opportunity to have one of the best in NFL history if woulda drafted Cam Robinson to complete the Oline. But management wanted to roll the dice with focusing on defense in the draft. When the line was pretty much already complete. The line could consist of....
Stanley Osemele Jensen Yanda Robinson. Think about that. The right coordinator and a No.1 WR and the offense could be No1 while being potent explosive yet ball control. To make it worse management has missed on round2 and 3round players 4 yrs straight!! AND the 2016 draft was loaded!! Decosta and Ozzie picked the 2 losers in the middle of pro bowl caliber players. The players overlooked for Bronson is pathetic. And the players overlooked for Correa should be a fine!! BTW if Gruden was hired he could get control over personnel.
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Cam Robinson is in the bottom 4 tackles in the league per PFF.
He's got slow feet and lousy technique. KO has had a down year by his standards. Austin Howard has been a lot better than cam.
 
Sami84 said:
Cam Robinson is in the bottom 4 tackles in the league per PFF.
He's got slow feet and lousy technique. KO has had a down year by his standards. Austin Howard has been a lot better than cam.
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Howard is playing RT. Cam is a rookie playing left tackle. And Robinson is probably a more natural RT. And I wouldn't call him slow. Maybe not Tunsil but definitely not slow
 
Sami84 said:
Cam Robinson is in the bottom 4 tackles in the league per PFF.
He's got slow feet and lousy technique. KO has had a down year by his standards. Austin Howard has been a lot better than cam.
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Sledge sounds like he's been juicing too. One of the GOAT lines? Cmon man, that line would maybe compete with the reassembled line we had for the super bowl run. Birk was a better pass protector than Jensen and much higher iq(and I'm a huge Jensen fan), oher at RT in Baltimore is better than cam(LT and his time at other teams is another story), mckinnie in that stretch was lights out and only a hair behind Stanley, and KO is obviously better than what we have. But that line honestly would just be good and would struggle with strong side pass protection
 
Sledge Hammer said:
Howard is playing RT. Cam is a rookie playing left tackle. And Robinson is probably a more natural RT. And I wouldn't call him slow. Maybe not Tunsil but definitely not slow
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His feet are absolutely slow. Dunno where you're getting this, also sloppy, do you remember how often he fucked up his lockstep at Alabama? He was good for it about 3 times a game where he takes a super shallow kickstep and ends up turning his shoulders as soon as the ball is snapped
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
His feet are absolutely slow. Dunno where you're getting this, also sloppy, do you remember how often he fucked up his lockstep at Alabama? He was good for it about 3 times a game where he takes a super shallow kickstep and ends up turning his shoulders as soon as the ball is snapped
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He’s watching it in fast forward. If he were to watch cam in regular speed he’d know his feet are slow. Much better suited for guard, if you ask me.
 
DeCosta had a better situation with the Jets and still didn’t take the job. Also, he’s pretty much the GM here and Ozzie isn’t going to be here much longer, I’m sure Eric isn’t going anywhere.
 
RavensMania said:
He’s watching it in fast forward. If he were to watch cam in regular speed he’d know his feet are slow. Much better suited for guard, if you ask me.
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Totally agree. Eliminate the need for a fast backpedal and cam suddenly becomes a blue chipper. I LOVE the way he run blocks and always have. He coils up and bursts forward like a damn snake when he makes contact in the run game.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Totally agree. Eliminate the need for a fast backpedal and cam suddenly becomes a blue chipper. I LOVE the way he run blocks and always have. He coils up and bursts forward like a damn snake when he makes contact in the run game.
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Before the draft I was ok with drafting Cam Newton Robinson as a guard, but in the 2nd round, not the 1st.
 
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this smacks of trolling to me...
why would the giants be the organisation that pulls decosta away given the number of job offers he's had and turned down without hesitation?
why would the ravens be the organisation that pulls gruden out of broadcasting - what can we offer that other teams cant?
why are we assuming that Jimmy's PED was steroids, especially given the ravens confidence the appeal would have been successful?
why would harbs be fired after bringing this injury-ridden roster to the playoffs and having not lost the locker room?
and i dont know who the messages are supposed to be from but they dont sound like anyone who actually covers the ravens given the way they refer to the draft and free agency process with relation this organisation...

if these were really legitimate rumours, they would be reported on and schefter or rapsheet or garofolo or zrebiec or preston or hensley would have them
 
rossihunter2 said:
this smacks of trolling to me...
why would the giants be the organisation that pulls decosta away given the number of job offers he's had and turned down without hesitation?
why would the ravens be the organisation that pulls gruden out of broadcasting - what can we offer that other teams cant?
why are we assuming that Jimmy's PED was steroids, especially given the ravens confidence the appeal would have been successful?
why would harbs be fired after bringing this injury-ridden roster to the playoffs and having not lost the locker room?
and i dont know who the messages are supposed to be from but they dont sound like anyone who actually covers the ravens given the way they refer to the draft and free agency process with relation this organisation...

if these were really legitimate rumours, they would be reported on and schefter or rapsheet or garofolo or zrebiec or preston or hensley would have them
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Lots of explanations. Biscotti is dedicated to winning more than any owner. Maybe he thought Ozzie was close to retirement and he would be GM but with Ozzie wanting to work for a while his patience could be thin and he could be ready to be the top dude. With all the critique of Harball and offense from multiple former players. Biscotti is evaluating Harballs fit. Gruden demands results and effort like Harbaugh but he actually can coach and scheme offense and defense. And with all the ped use and more players about to be suspended, u think Biscotti really buys the coach is totally oblivious to all the ped use?? Who really knows, Harball could be desperate and not only on board but encouraging the players.
 
Sledge Hammer said:
Lots of explanations. Biscotti is dedicated to winning more than any owner. Maybe he thought Ozzie was close to retirement and he would be GM but with Ozzie wanting to work for a while his patience could be thin and he could be ready to be the top dude. With all the critique of Harball and offense from multiple former players. Biscotti is evaluating Harballs fit. Gruden demands results and effort like Harbaugh but he actually can coach and scheme offense and defense. And with all the ped use and more players about to be suspended, u think Biscotti really buys the coach is totally oblivious to all the ped use?? Who really knows, Harball could be desperate and not only on board but encouraging the players.
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i have not seen one instance of harbs being criticised by anyone in the organisation, biscotti has shown an incredibly amount of patience with coaches and certainly ones who go to the playoffs..., decosta is already the top draft dude essentially so its not like he's losing out - he's paid as well as most gms and has as much draft control as a gm too and is an intrinsic part of the front office so a job offer would have to blow him away, gruden may be a great coach still but why would he go back to coaching (what makes the ravens special that he would eschew the great career he now has in broadcasting), there is no evidence of systemic PED use except the unsubstantiated rumour in the post that was posted above which doesnt constitute evidence,

you answered my list of questions with a load of unsubstantiated rumours and assumptions that seem as far-fetched as the original post tbh...
a lot of "maybes" that arent based in any fact or evidence
 
rossihunter2 said:
i have not seen one instance of harbs being criticised by anyone in the organisation, biscotti has shown an incredibly amount of patience with coaches and certainly ones who go to the playoffs..., decosta is already the top draft dude essentially so its not like he's losing out - he's paid as well as most gms and has as much draft control as a gm too and is an intrinsic part of the front office so a job offer would have to blow him away, gruden may be a great coach still but why would he go back to coaching (what makes the ravens special that he would eschew the great career he now has in broadcasting), there is no evidence of systemic PED use except the unsubstantiated rumour in the post that was posted above which doesnt constitute evidence,

you answered my list of questions with a load of unsubstantiated rumours and assumptions that seem as far-fetched as the original post tbh...
a lot of "maybes" that arent based in any fact or evidence
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Yep who knows the facts what goes on but when a team leads the NFL in players caught with PEDs you can be sure there are more not caught. And you would have to be pretty nieve to believe the coach is oblivious to his team using PEDs. Harball lies about injuries. Do you really think he is gonna say he knows about players on his team juicing?? The coaching changes is epecation but when a former player criticizes the scheme it gets attention. And for the record Pollard isn't the only former player to say Harball is useless scheming offense and defense. He is the only one that went public. Do you really think he would look like a moron with an off the rail opinion that nobody else shares?? Unless there are players and coaches that agree with him. For him to say it and not look stupid there has to be people that agree with him. Maybe it's all rumor. But you can't be sure. Do you really wanna call it trolled rumor then have a coaching GM shakeup?? A lot happens in the NFL that we don't hear about. We don't know. Maybe Biscotti thinks so much of Gruden he makes him highest paid coach.
 
Sledge Hammer said:
Yep who knows the facts what goes on but when a team leads the NFL in players caught with PEDs you can be sure there are more not caught. And you would have to be pretty nieve to believe the coach is oblivious to his team using PEDs. Harball lies about injuries. Do you really think he is gonna say he knows about players on his team juicing?? The coaching changes is epecation but when a former player criticizes the scheme it gets attention. And for the record Pollard isn't the only former player to say Harball is useless scheming offense and defense. He is the only one that went public. Do you really think he would look like a moron with an off the rail opinion that nobody else shares?? Unless there are players and coaches that agree with him. For him to say it and not look stupid there has to be people that agree with him. Maybe it's all rumor. But you can't be sure. Do you really wanna call it trolled rumor then have a coaching GM shakeup?? A lot happens in the NFL that we don't hear about. We don't know. Maybe Biscotti thinks so much of Gruden he makes him highest paid coach.
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are we the team with the most PED players? we have a few repeat offenders in our recent history: waller, boyle, asa jackson for instance who im sure inflate the number slightly...

and then there's the reasons behind some of these suspensions - jackson's was i think due to some adhd medication that he didnt ok the prescription with the NFL first, sounds like the ravens were pretty confident about winning jimmy's appeal

if we have a PED culture here then so does a lot of the nfl - the seahawks and dallas seem to always have guys on PED suspensions too...

and again you havent given any evidence on any of the other rumours... useless conjecture - and pollard is the only player to go public because he's the only player to feel that way - and pollard did look like a moron for that opinion - he did look stupid and people actively came out of the woodwork to disparage his viewpoint

i mean the post that you are speculating about literally starts with the word "rumour" and then looks shady and useless as hell - so im gonna call it trolling/rumour until i see any evidence to the contrary

and i imagine there are teams with more money than biscotti who have offered to pay gruden as much as he wants - and he still has not accepted the job - you keep thinking of the gruden hire as if biscotti can just get what he wants - no... gruden has to want to do it - why would he pick the ravens over broadcasting if he isnt gonna take any other head coaching job???
 
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