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JAAM

Hall of Famer
I'd trade a L to the steelers to finally move on from this coach once and for all. Someone put a poll together if we should fire Harbaugh or not please. I would like to see what the base thinks. For the freaking 4th straight off-season I ask please for the love of god....Eric Bieniemy.
Not disagreeing with you at all but how much does Bieniemy really have a say in that offense?
 

Sooky

Pro Bowler
Just a friendly reminder it’s week 11. In the Steelers and Titans loss the Ravens dominated 3 quarters worth and looked like the better team most the game.

For the Ravens to go 14-2 last season the ball bounced their way more than it has this year. It happens. I think most reasonable fans saw the Ravens at 11-12 wins this year which is still possible.

Are they playing the best football? No definitely not. But has their been flashes? Of course. This team hasn’t died yet and he’s they likely won’t catch Pittsburgh and if the Steelers win the Ravens next week they clinch the division.

There is time for the Ravens to adjust. And it’s not about who’s playing the best ball in November. And to be completely honest most of the Ravens losses the past 2 years have been at home so maybe the Ravens are better as a wildcard team.
 

LSURavenFan

Veteran
I'm frustrated, but I think the Ravens absolutely have a chance on Thanksgiving.

The Steelers may be undefeated, but they are far from a juggernaut. The Ravens can beat them... if they don't beat themselves,
 

ravenslord

Ravens Ring of Honor
I'm frustrated, but I think the Ravens absolutely have a chance on Thanksgiving.

The Steelers may be undefeated, but they are far from a juggernaut. The Ravens can beat them... if they don't beat themselves,
If Campbell and Williams play , I do think we have a shot . If not , doubt it highly.
 

A1A

Veteran
Just a friendly reminder it’s week 11. In the Steelers and Titans loss the Ravens dominated 3 quarters worth and looked like the better team most the game.

For the Ravens to go 14-2 last season the ball bounced their way more than it has this year. It happens. I think most reasonable fans saw the Ravens at 11-12 wins this year which is still possible.

Are they playing the best football? No definitely not. But has their been flashes? Of course. This team hasn’t died yet and he’s they likely won’t catch Pittsburgh and if the Steelers win the Ravens next week they clinch the division.

There is time for the Ravens to adjust. And it’s not about who’s playing the best ball in November. And to be completely honest most of the Ravens losses the past 2 years have been at home so maybe the Ravens are better as a wildcard team.

I was with you until you said "time for the Ravens to adjust"
 

JO_75

Hall of Famer
On a short week, I don't expect Greg Roman to be fired before Thursday. I do think if our offense continues to sputter and we lose on Thursday Night, we could have a new OC before the Thursday Night game against Dallas next week. I don't know how I feel about this game, but I'm at the point of whatever happens the rest of the season, happens. I'm done trying to believe in the whole "everything is playing out like 2012, everything will be alright" nonsense.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
On a short week, I don't expect Greg Roman to be fired before Thursday. I do think if our offense continues to sputter and we lose on Thursday Night, we could have a new OC before the Thursday Night game against Dallas next week. I don't know how I feel about this game, but I'm at the point of whatever happens the rest of the season, happens. I'm done trying to believe in the whole "everything is playing out like 2012, everything will be alright" nonsense.
Yeah in 2012 we looked like a super bowl favorite up until around week 10, and that slump came off the back of some temporary injuries and horrible play calling. This year we looked like a SB favorite for all of one week, and the injuries were suffering are season ending.

I let go of the 2012 hopes when Stanley went on IR
 

ravenslord

Ravens Ring of Honor
I really hate watching the Ravens play on Thanksgiving after a belly full of turkey , ham , beer , wine and pumpkin pie.
The indigestion really sets in bad in the evening .
 

A1A

Veteran
Not disagreeing with you at all but how much does Bieniemy really have a say in that offense?
Well how about you do a little digging on the subject. Not only is he under to tutelage of a great one that players RESPECT, but he also played the game and had a long career. That right there is something we never had here. After watching this team for a majority of my entire life I know when we're done. I saw coach rip this team apart, I've seen his face when the going gets tough. The players constantly bail him out and if it wasn't for Lamar he'd been fired after the 2018 season. The front office is A1+++ but they dont coach and you'll see. EDC will be looking for another coach this off-season. And if he hires someone like Tony Dungy I'm done with football period.
 

A1A

Veteran
Got the best kicker in the game....let's for go for it!

Lose by 2.

Imagine if Bill left Vinatieri on the bench all those times?? The pats won how many games ugly?? That man didn't care how he won he just wanted to win lie cheat or steal lol
 

cdp

Ravens Ring of Honor
I see at least 4 more wins. 10-6 might not be enough though.
If we lose to either Jags, Dallas, Giants or Bengals, I'm officially done with Harbaugh and Roman.
 

JAAM

Hall of Famer
Well how about you do a little digging on the subject. Not only is he under to tutelage of a great one that players RESPECT, but he also played the game and had a long career. That right there is something we never had here. After watching this team for a majority of my entire life I know when we're done. I saw coach rip this team apart, I've seen his face when the going gets tough. The players constantly bail him out and if it wasn't for Lamar he'd been fired after the 2018 season. The front office is A1+++ but they dont coach and you'll see. EDC will be looking for another coach this off-season. And if he hires someone like Tony Dungy I'm done with football period.
All of that is cool and all, but is he calling the plays for KC?
 

JAAM

Hall of Famer
I see at least 4 more wins. 10-6 might not be enough though.
If we lose to either Jags, Dallas, Giants or Bengals, I'm officially done with Harbaugh and Roman.
Dallas could be sneaky. I said it before the season started and got scolded. Not afraid of Cincy anymore with Burrow.
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
Dallas could be sneaky. I said it before the season started and got scolded. Not afraid of Cincy anymore with Burrow.
Well, before the season started, when they had Dak, that was a difficult game already.

If we can't beat Dalton behind a bad Oline and horrific defense, then we aren't a playoff team anyway.
 

RavensFan419

Pro Bowler
This is a get back on track statement game if we get Campbell or BWIll back or both I feel very confident we get right here JK will have a day running the ball
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
Well how about you do a little digging on the subject. Not only is he under to tutelage of a great one that players RESPECT, but he also played the game and had a long career. That right there is something we never had here. After watching this team for a majority of my entire life I know when we're done. I saw coach rip this team apart, I've seen his face when the going gets tough. The players constantly bail him out and if it wasn't for Lamar he'd been fired after the 2018 season. The front office is A1+++ but they dont coach and you'll see. EDC will be looking for another coach this off-season. And if he hires someone like Tony Dungy I'm done with football period.
1. Whether he played the game or not really has nothing to do with whether he's a good coach. There's a long, long, long list of very accomplished players who were total crap as coaches. If you're hanging your hat on that as part of your coaching analysis, then you're doing bad analysis.
2. The whole "under tutelage" thing is overplayed as well, especially when it comes to offensive coaches under Andy Reid. They're just not having much success elsewhere.
Matt Nagy literally followed Reid around wherever he went for 6-7 years, acting as QB coach and OC, before getting a HC gig in Chicago. He's heading for unemployment after three years of world-class bad play calling in Chicago.
Doug Pederson, who actually has a SB ring, has been leading pretty terrible offenses for multiple years now in Philly, and is probably a year away from coaching himself out of a job too. He decided to try to upgrade the offense this year by bringing in a stud like Marty Morhinweg as a critical offensive consultant.
And then there's Pat Shurmur, who's bounced around among like dozens of jobs, rarely staying more than 2-3 years anywhere, and having no real success anywhere either.

Pretty much all of the actual "good" coaches under the Andy Reid tree are on the defensive side of the ball, or are of the John Harbaugh types.
 

Sandtown

Pro Bowler
Well how about you do a little digging on the subject. Not only is he under to tutelage of a great one that players RESPECT, but he also played the game and had a long career. That right there is something we never had here. After watching this team for a majority of my entire life I know when we're done. I saw coach rip this team apart, I've seen his face when the going gets tough. The players constantly bail him out and if it wasn't for Lamar he'd been fired after the 2018 season. The front office is A1+++ but they dont coach and you'll see. EDC will be looking for another coach this off-season. And if he hires someone like Tony Dungy I'm done with football period.

Don't every head coach need players to bail them out? Head coaches need good to great players to be successful. When was the last time you seen a head coach make the playoffs without such things? Bill Belichick is regarded as one of the greatest coaches of all time and his team is currently 4-6 without Tom Brady. Why hasn't his great coaching overcome such a hurdle ? You guys got to chill with this negativity and firing John Harbaugh aint the answer.
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
Don't every head coach need players to bail them out? Head coaches need good to great players to be successful. When was the last time you seen a head coach make the playoffs without such things? Bill Belichick is regarded as one of the greatest coaches of all time and his team is currently 4-6 without Tom Brady. Why hasn't his great coaching overcome such a hurdle ? You guys got to chill with this negativity and firing John Harbaugh aint the answer.
Wouldn't put much stock into it. Harbaugh isn't getting fired. He can think that EDC will fire him, but his thinking will, like usual, be wrong.
 
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