UPennChem
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Im with you. I am just predicting Harbaugh doesn't make the Cleveland for Vorhees move
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The Andrews, the Defense, and the Blocking
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Probably not. They took the approach last year that the OL would settle in, and they ultimately did. Hopefully the same holds true this year.
Just weird shades of last year, with the same but also different problems.
It's a shame no one saw this coming in the offseason.
ravenslord
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Maybe it’s time to give Keaton some playing time
Grim
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At this point you have to wonder if switching Vorhees isn't at least on the table. He has been by far the worst person on the OL. It's also crazy how bad we are without Ricard. It's like we can't run the ball.
We're missing the most important players (Madubuike, Ricard, Likely) at the most important time.
Grim
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Only difference last year is Rosengarten, Stanley, Linderbaum held it down. Our OL is now officially awful. This was by far their worst game and they were without one of their key IDL players.
gtalk12
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What’s the point? He’s going to get blown up in the backfield continually
I actually think Mitchell-Paden has done a nice job as a fill in, but it still somehow just doesn’t stack up to what Ricard does. We’re so much better with him on the field and it doesn’t make sense because it’s so damn obvious what’s gonna happen but they still can’t stop it.
gtalk12
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Ricard might be our best lineman
Oh, so the Browns are terrible.
Keaton being active/inactive is so far down the list of concerns on this team currently.
LSURavenFan
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This is a really frustrating team.
They got smoked on both lines of scrimmage. It shouldn't come as a surprise really. The front office hasn't spent many premium picks on the trenches. But they spend 1st's on safeties twice in 4yrs.
Lamar looked flustered. He didn't play as well as the statline will show. The OL was bad and I think it caused him to do too much. Some of those sacks were a result of #8 holding it too long. He didn't look explosive as a runner.
The defense isn't good. I think they will be an average group at best. It's hard to win at a high level when that's the case. They don't force turnovers. For as many big names as the defense has, they can't force a turnover in a big game. Frustrating.
I think it's fair to expect the Ravens to be 1-3 by next Monday. Hard to like their chances in Arrowhead.
They got smoked on both lines of scrimmage. It shouldn't come as a surprise really. The front office hasn't spent many premium picks on the trenches. But they spend 1st's on safeties twice in 4yrs.
Lamar looked flustered. He didn't play as well as the statline will show. The OL was bad and I think it caused him to do too much. Some of those sacks were a result of #8 holding it too long. He didn't look explosive as a runner.
The defense isn't good. I think they will be an average group at best. It's hard to win at a high level when that's the case. They don't force turnovers. For as many big names as the defense has, they can't force a turnover in a big game. Frustrating.
I think it's fair to expect the Ravens to be 1-3 by next Monday. Hard to like their chances in Arrowhead.
Also feel like I do need to give Detroit some credit though. That’s a team of dogs led by a fucking maniac and they all buy in. They have a type and they mesh so well together. It’s impressive. I know it’s easy to come in here and shit on the Ravens, and it’s definitely deserved, but that’s still a really good fucking team we faced. We need to start coming out ahead in the battles of the best of the best of course.
I'm hoping for that as well. At least do have a consistent track record for pulling ourselves out of the fire. I think if we were going to contextualize it our hopes going into the season. Mike Green looked like he could revitalize our ability to depend on a young pass rusher to consistently provide pressure. We were hoping for Roger Rosengarten to either take a step forward or at least play on par with his rock solid rookie season, especially to help offset the issues on the interior. Those were mostly fair, especially with Andrew Vorhees looking like he returnee to form in the preseason. Those falling expectations are throwing us for a loop, and between LG, RG and RT, we're just not moving people up front. And we need that physicality if we're going to open lanes for Derrick Henry.
Regarding the latter...
OURavensFan
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Lions got revenge on us, that must be nice. Maybe we can beat the chiefs , not sure what revenge feels like honestly
OURavensFan
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If the line is going to be this bad Lamar has to start throwing the ball away
One thing I will say is super frustrating is Stout has been largely very good this year, but you'd never really know because it doesn't matter where the Bills or Lions started- they just had their way with the Ravens defense.
Dom McRaven
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Yep. I think it was either St. Brown or Gibbs who mentioned the 2023 game. They said the offense was tired in the 2nd half because we were simply the more physical team. Going into the game, they said they needed to match the physicality (or be even more physical than us).
Again, I'm not letting Orr off the hook, but when your front-7 is getting beat like a drum at the LOS, what is a coordinator supposed to do? Blitzing isn't gonna work unless you time it perfectly and even then, they have a number of playmakers that'll make you pay for it.