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JoeyFlex5 said:
Since we’re not tanking the season, obviously trying to make some moves to salvage it, then maybe read option all fckn day with Huntley and Henry is the only chance.

Because I don’t think cooper rush gives us a chance
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I think defenses would much rather face Huntley than Rush. Rush will at least throw the ball down the field. Any defense playing Huntley will have 11 guys within 5 yards of the LOS. He's not throwing deep, he's inaccurate, and teams will salivate at the mouth for a one dimensional offense that struggles with run blocking.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Since we’re not tanking the season, obviously trying to make some moves to salvage it, then maybe read option all fckn day with Huntley and Henry is the only chance.

Because I don’t think cooper rush gives us a chance
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That'd be all fine if Snoop could throw a decent length pass. We still don't have a good O line and running game sucks on all 3 levels - up in the box, blocking, running.
 
I think the Ravens will bounce back guys. Lamar is coming back and the AFC is garbage. Your division is weak. You guys got this. I just hope my team can make the playoffs. I don’t think we’re going far.
 
Remember how furious a lot of Ravens fans were about the Rams trading away picks to win the SB? They were 'mortgaging their future' the way the Ravens would be if we gave Lamar a big contract (both debates were happening at the same time.) Not like the smart and sensible Ravens who were building to compete in perpetuity.

I wonder if seeing what they do to us on Sunday will make any of them reflect on some of those Raven fan tenets about how we're always smarter, draft better, and plan better than the rest of the NFL. I hope so, because that assumption of superiority is pretty annoying, especially now, when about 85% of the NFL makes smart, sound decisions most of the time. The real reason why we've been good lately is Lamar - not some kind of inate organisational genius.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I think defenses would much rather face Huntley than Rush. Rush will at least throw the ball down the field. Any defense playing Huntley will have 11 guys within 5 yards of the LOS. He's not throwing deep, he's inaccurate, and teams will salivate at the mouth for a one dimensional offense that struggles with run blocking.
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I was not a fan of the Rush signing and I said so at the time. He gets treated as a high end backup when he is totally mid. That said, he does have a history of looking awful one game only to bounce back and play good football for a stretch and he does remind me of the Qb's Monken had success with at Georgia.
 
Baltimorican said:
I was not a fan of the Rush signing and I said so at the time. He gets treated as a high end backup when he is totally mid. That said, he does have a history of looking awful one game only to bounce back and play good football for a stretch and he does remind me of the Qb's Monken had success with at Georgia.
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Well we badly need a win.
 
Baltimorican said:
I was not a fan of the Rush signing and I said so at the time. He gets treated as a high end backup when he is totally mid. That said, he does have a history of looking awful one game only to bounce back and play good football for a stretch and he does remind me of the Qb's Monken had success with at Georgia.
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There's really no "high end backups". People like him because he's had sufficient starts, his team actually won a respectable amount of games when he was out there, and his statistical ratios are pretty good.

Huntley is terrible. Closer to John Johnson than Cooper Rush. Never understood what people saw in him.

My issue is that I have no idea why anybody would watch this offense and think "yeah, Huntley gives us a better shot to win". I think the people saying that are still pretending like this offense is the 2023 offense, not the 2025 offense. Ravens can't run the ball effectively. Huntley is a mobile QB. That doesn't help the problem. It hurts the problem. A mobile QB who is allergic to throw down field on a team that can't run the ball.

If you're a DC, you're literally jizzing all over yourself for the dream scenario of a team trying to run the ball against against 8-9 man fronts with a QB who won't throw it down field. It's a dream come true.

Ignoring the fact that 2 of the 3 INTs on Rush really weren't on him, I don't really care if Rush throws INTs. We're not winning a 17-14 game with the current D anyway. And I think its laughable that people think Rush has a "turnover" problem, when the guy they want to replace him as literally 2x the number of INTs on the same number of starts AND on less passing volume.
 
Baltimorican said:
I was not a fan of the Rush signing and I said so at the time. He gets treated as a high end backup when he is totally mid. That said, he does have a history of looking awful one game only to bounce back and play good football for a stretch and he does remind me of the Qb's Monken had success with at Georgia.
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His contract suggests that he's a mid backup. I don't think anyone has ever said or treated him as a high end backup. He's got a better skillset than what we've had in recent years though.
 
Deebo813 said:
Idk why its taken us so long to play more man anyway when we have been getting killed in this miscommunication zone of his
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Ravens have been a mixture of zone and man defense for some time. Other coordinators like Wink Martindale have tend to use man coverage more. I don't really understand why the defense is struggling so much in zone coverage cause it's not like Mike MacDonald didn't use it but maybe he was more balanced with it than Zach Orr is or his zone coverages just wasn't as complexed . Even Chuck Pagano defense is known to use zone coverages alot and John Harbaugh himself comes from a zone heavy defensive philosophy under Jim Johnson .
 
Baltimorican said:
There's always anywhere between 3-6 or so high end backups at any given time. Your Fitzpatricks, Brissets and Case Keenums of the world. I think Gardner Minshew & Dalton indisputably are there right now.
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lol the difference between Minshew and Rush is very, very, very small. If you look at the statistical output historically between the two, its practically negligible.

High end backup is code for "was once considered a potential franchise starter but never lived up to it".
 
Sandtown said:
Ravens have been a mixture of zone and man defense for some time. Other coordinators like Wink Martindale have tend to use man coverage more. I don't really understand why the defense is struggling so much in zone coverage cause it's not like Mike MacDonald didn't use it but maybe he was more balanced with it than Zach Orr is or his zone coverages just wasn't as complexed . Even Chuck Pagano defense is known to use zone coverages alot and John Harbaugh himself comes from a zone heavy defensive philosophy under Jim Johnson .
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Zone isn't a bad thing in theory. In fact, I understand why we transitioned there heavily over the last few years. It's greatly helped with disguise and the ability to scheme pressure and create turnovers (except in the playoffs apparently). This year's zone philosophy just has all of the makings of trying to be too cute on the coverage side of things and not cute enough on the pressure side of things. Blitzes are telegraphed but the coverage side of things make no sense at times.

Zone concepts are great when they work, but this is just a team that needs to play man right now and let players win or lose individual battles.
 
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