I haven't read the rest because it has had an effect.
Has it been as big as they may have hoped? Probably not. But we have seen minority coaches at least on an uptick in recent years.
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Has it been as big as they may have hoped? Probably not. But we have seen minority coaches at least on an uptick in recent years.
redrum52
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How does he look younger lol... this is the pic I expect on a fake ID to look more mature
JoeyFlex5
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Context comes after that, there’s more white coaches in the pipeline than black coaches, and that paradigm has shifted in recent years, thus the uptick in minority coaching hires.
I have no problem with the existence of the Rooney rule, but the uproar of “why isn’t the Rooney rule working faster?!” Is what I have the problem with.
Argentina Raven
Practice Squad
Everyone should be evaluated based on their ability to perform the job.
Nothing more. Regardless of race, religion, or gender.
Within the realm of what's normal for a fully developed person, of course (I'm not going to put Epstein in charge of a youth team, to give a crude example).
I know that reality isn't like that, and they still have to fight against that exclusion, but it should change, of course, in an ideal world, not in the current one.
P.S. Unfortunately, someone imposed the concept of Argentina as racist and full of Nazis and blah blah blah, even though the USA had more Nazis (paperclip). I don't believe that. There are good people and bad people, like everywhere else
Nothing more. Regardless of race, religion, or gender.
Within the realm of what's normal for a fully developed person, of course (I'm not going to put Epstein in charge of a youth team, to give a crude example).
I know that reality isn't like that, and they still have to fight against that exclusion, but it should change, of course, in an ideal world, not in the current one.
P.S. Unfortunately, someone imposed the concept of Argentina as racist and full of Nazis and blah blah blah, even though the USA had more Nazis (paperclip). I don't believe that. There are good people and bad people, like everywhere else
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Dude I was making a mockery of this whole topic with that post lmao it wasn’t serious
And also not racist and full of nazis, nazis exiled there way back but only an idiot would think it’s anything more than a very small group of Argentinians who have ancestors that were nazis in the 40s and hold on to some German culture in the later generations.
Argentina Raven
Practice Squad
I know, Joey, but it's always good to clarify a few things.
Then I read the posts I was missing, and you said the same thing as me, just in different words
I just want the Ravens 3 SB
52520Andrew
Pro Bowler
I feel like McDaniel struggled to get the right talent from his GM but also think he was a bit too soft on the players and they really were more style than substance. Think as an OC he would be great as a guy who can create awesome stuff but just not sold on him as a guy who can instill discipline and consistency which is needed to perform well against the best.
QtR Nevermore
Pro Bowler
I don't think the Rooney rule was designed to be virtue signalling. I think the older Rooney, who proposed it, the one who hired Tomlin, was not a racist and he genuinely thought that if they got minority coaches in front of owners, they would pick the best candidate, as he had. It's very naive to have faith in billionaires to be decent people.
What was virtue signalling was all the other owners who voted for the rule to be put in place with no intention of ever hiring a minority head coach.
Possibly the only way to get billionaires owners interested in different candidates would be if teams start appointing underage age minority boys and girls as OCs and QB coaches.
Yep, and I think the league has a similar opinion. Feels like a near certainty that he's going to get another shot at it, but just seems like he's going to have to go back and pay his dues for a year or two first.
Grim
Ravens Ring of Honor
We had Henry and Lamar. Pretty sure some guy on the street could scheme up plays for them lol
But I'm not asking why it isn't working faster; simply pointing out that it isn't racist to require more inclusive opportunities.
allblackraven
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If I was a Baltimore local, I'd fly a drone carrying "Karl Dunbar is still available" sign over the castle.
Three times a day.
BTW, Cullen was the first coach linked to Minter after he got the job and still nothing. What happened there? Was he just a DC candidate?
Cullen is still under contract with KC as DL coach there
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Fair enough. I quoted you but it also wasn’t necessarily aimed at you, more the topic in general.
And I also don’t think it’s racist to make sure minorities are getting exposure to the front offices, don’t think there’s anything wrong with it at all.
I’m just wondering why there’s a good crowd here that seem bent out of shape about the lack of minority hires at HC and OC while simultaneously praising the hires of minter and Doyle for the ravens.