probably would signal that Andrews would be going to be 1 and done on his extension if we did bring in McDaniels
i think, for me, the market on offensive HCs is so much better than the OC market (other than Mike McDaniel), the market at DC is likely to be pretty similar to the market for defensive HCs
not saying that Flores or Saleh wouldn't necessarily be great, but also, those guys or guys like them may end up being DCs anyway
if you don't hire an offensive HC, then the guys you're potentially shopping around for as OCs are Kliff Kingsbury, Brian Daboll, trying to snipe one of the non-playcalling OCs like Klay Kubiak or hiring a passing game/QB coach type guy
i much prefer the idea of having to shop more regularly (if that's the case) at the Brian Flores, Raheem Morris or Dennard Wilson shop vs the Kliff Kingsbury, Nate Scheelhaase, Thomas Brown shop
i think so
Has run a high quality organisation for multiple years
Rodgers had his best years with LaFleur as the HC (when he had the reins taken off him a bit)
Developed Jordan Love
Has run a successful offence and the ability to adapt to injuries etc.
Has hired good DCs
not saying we'd have to go that route
but he'd be the guy with the best resume of the bunch by far
Yeah. No way to keep a good OC for longer than a year or maybe two unless he's a HC.
or you have some greybeard former HC who no one wants as a retread - but im not sure those guys really exist anymore (maybe Matt Nagy's the closest example)
but yeah, if you want consistency of identity (and scheme) over time, then you have to hire an offensive HC - especially as that coach is able to create an offensive infrastructure that, if successful, coaches will want to be a part of, and you then create your pipeline of future OCs as and when yours get hired away, with the consistent throughline of your head coach
cant build infrastructure to last (from a coaching sense) if your guy gets poached in a year
I would really love if we hired a guy like a Mike McDaniel, Klint Kubiak, Matt LaFleur (if he becomes available) - they bring in their shanahan tree guys, but maybe keep a guy like Tee Martin - you can attach an older more experienced DC to them if you feel they need the support, or you see if Anthony Weaver's amenable to being a DL/Assistant HC type guy
i would love to have a flores type guy here - but if im building a franchise to last with a coaching staff that will hopefully outlast even Lamar, i want an offensive guy
It's how McVay & Shanahan always have a continuous stream of talent at coaching and on their team. Those coaches have a vision, execute it through their people, and they make it work consistently.If that’s the case, so be it. He is on the back 9 of his career anyways. We scout and develop TEs well anyways.
This is exactly why we HAVE to go with an offensive minded coach. I think it’s clear that defensive minded coaches are a dime a dozen but finding and keeping the offensive minded coaches are much harder.
IF he becomes available. He jumps to the top of the list right above McDaniel. He’s a notch above him imo.
Exactly why we cannot make the mistake of bringing in a defensive minded coach. Even if that means someone like McDaniel or Daboll come with them. Sure in year 1 (maybe 2, if they don’t stick get hired away) that would be amazing but then we’re back to trying to find our play caller on offense.
I agree here. And I HOPE Biscotti has become aware of this over the years. If you want to retain the offensive system and play caller long term. He has to be your HC.
2 things lolThe figurehead that controls the operation but rarely gets their hands dirty
I think balance is what people want. And I think the complaints about Harbaugh were more than not getting his hands dirty.2 things lol
1) CEOs are paid to get their hands dirty. They make the absolute toughest decisions and set the entire vision of the company as appeoved by the board of directors.
That's neither here nor there lol
2) Why would we want a HC who "doesn't get their hands dirty". That's exactly what tons of people were complaining about with Harbaugh. I thought what people wanted was a HC either from an OC or DC who was going to be a force miltiplier schematically.
You’re reading far too much into this2 things lol
1) CEOs are paid to get their hands dirty. They make the absolute toughest decisions and set the entire vision of the company as appeoved by the board of directors.
That's neither here nor there lol
2) Why would we want a HC who "doesn't get their hands dirty". That's exactly what tons of people were complaining about with Harbaugh. I thought what people wanted was a HC either from an OC or DC who was going to be a force miltiplier schematically.
I wouldn’t fear that. Statistics show that head coaches do far better in their second tenure than their first.I just hope it's someone new.
I don't want a coach who's already failed somewhere else.
I feel like we can just find a better DC. I feel like Orr aside, we've always managed to replace DCs who left this team. I feel like we can do it again, too. Will we always have a crazy good defense? Maybe not, but top-10 is good enough to win a championship IMHO. I feel we can find that and field that with the defensive talent we have at this moment.
2 things lol
1) CEOs are paid to get their hands dirty. They make the absolute toughest decisions and set the entire vision of the company as appeoved by the board of directors.
That's neither here nor there lol
2) Why would we want a HC who "doesn't get their hands dirty". That's exactly what tons of people were complaining about with Harbaugh. I thought what people wanted was a HC either from an OC or DC who was going to be a force miltiplier schematically.
As a HC, felt like he underachieved with the talent ATL has. I wouldn't mind him as a DC.wait why don't we like Raheem Morris?
exactly what I told @Truth on the phone a little earlier.Seeing all of the Baltimore media squash/call out the Harbaugh agent media tour is hilarious lol. I love Harbaugh but come on man, you were getting a job either way. There's no need for all of the narratives that are coming out.
As a HC, felt like he underachieved with the talent ATL has. I wouldn't mind him as a DC.
You know it's bad when Falcons fans across the board were essentially celebrating that he's gone now.
I didn’t realize til I read your comment lmaoI didn’t realize it was Lamar Jackson who sent that tweet until I read it again. That’s hilarious.
I feel like we can just find a better DC. I feel like Orr aside, we've always managed to replace DCs who left this team. I feel like we can do it again, too. Will we always have a crazy good defense? Maybe not, but top-10 is good enough to win a championship IMHO. I feel we can find that and field that with the defensive talent we have at this moment.
Seeing all of the Baltimore media squash/call out the Harbaugh agent media tour is hilarious lol. I love Harbaugh but come on man, you were getting a job either way. There's no need for all of the narratives that are coming out.
agree, unless for some reason Matt Lefleur is let go in Green Bay. Then I'd be interested.I just hope it's someone new.
I don't want a coach who's already failed somewhere else.
If that’s the case, so be it. He is on the back 9 of his career anyways. We scout and develop TEs well anyways.
This is exactly why we HAVE to go with an offensive minded coach. I think it’s clear that defensive minded coaches are a dime a dozen but finding and keeping the offensive minded coaches are much harder.
IF he becomes available. He jumps to the top of the list right above McDaniel. He’s a notch above him imo.
Exactly why we cannot make the mistake of bringing in a defensive minded coach. Even if that means someone like McDaniel or Daboll come with them. Sure in year 1 (maybe 2, if they don’t stick get hired away) that would be amazing but then we’re back to trying to find our play caller on offense.
I agree here. And I HOPE Biscotti has become aware of this over the years. If you want to retain the offensive system and play caller long term. He has to be your HC.